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Re: Calling owners with good 20" Alum iMac screens - which mfg week is your
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Nov 13, 2007 9:57 PM
in response to: The Looby
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IMO, the change was sneaky and underhanded, and the new product was (and continues to be) grossly misrepresented to Apple's customers. The new 20" 2.4 GHz iMac sells for EXACTLY the same price as the white 20" C2D -- so, it's NOT a "replacement" for the less expensive white 17".
I might not put it exactly that way, but I can agree with you on that point. Apple should be providing the same amount of technical information regarding the displays that PC makers normally provide, but the actual descriptions provided in Apple's promotional material is relatively meaningless.
It's certainly reasonable for people with previous generation 20" iMacs to have expected an IPS panel. Apple should have realized that and they should have disclosed that the 20" display was changed to a TN panel. For them not to have done so is misleading.
iMac 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Mac OS X (10.5)
The more I think, the more I think I shouldn't think more.
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Re: Calling owners with good 20" Alum iMac screens - which mfg week is your
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Nov 13, 2007 11:10 PM
in response to: capaho
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Reality checks are great when their is an actual reality needed to be brought to the forefront. But the reality of the matter is that Apple mislead everyone to believe that they were getting better iMacs and to their surprise, didn't at all.
I think people are well aware of the reality of their LCD components and that reality is all wrapped up in the fact that it *****, period.
Also, I'm a hardware junkie. I've used and abused high-end and low-end LCD displays over the years. Not once have I encountered something as ill-built as this. I have no problem with TN panels, you're absolutely right. I do however have a problem with CHEAP TN panels.
Capaho, it seems to me you're protecting a silver lining that doesn't exist. I do agree with you on some things, especially about the process of investigating the quality of a product before purchase. But no amount of investigation will prepare anyone to anticipate a back pedal of 2 years in product quality.
While my decision to exchange my iMac has been nothing but flip-flop, the fact still remains; I purchased a well-below par product and was completely mislead to believe that it wasn't. I think most people can agree.
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Re: Calling owners with good 20" Alum iMac screens - which mfg week is your
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Nov 13, 2007 11:25 PM
in response to: Ian Lo
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Ian Lo,
My predicament is a little special as I have very important projects due this month. So I decided to stick with this sad excuse for an iMac until further notice. Waiting close to 10 business days for a refund is out of the question.
I did talk to folks at the Apple store explaining my problem and their attitude is the same as everyone else experience with an Apple store employee, "yes, we agree with you, but we can't do anything about it short of replacing it or upgrading...sorry chum...".
The problem has been confirmed ALL over the place, so I'd advise you to either sell it and upgrade or just turn all just lie to yourself about how great the display is. This had mixed results for me. lol.
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Re: Calling owners with good 20" Alum iMac screens - which mfg week is your
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Nov 13, 2007 11:27 PM
in response to: devzero
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Sometimes it just ***** being a professional. You notice EVERYTHING! I wish I was just a simple surf-the-web-and-check-email kind of user.
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Re: Calling owners with good 20" Alum iMac screens - which mfg week is your
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Nov 14, 2007 12:41 AM
in response to: capaho
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You said yourself that in two-and-a-half years of using your 12" PowerBook you hadn't noticed the gradient effect until you tested for it. I think that says all that needs to be said about the gradient issue.
Thanks for your words of advice. Now, what about my EYES? I want professional, upgraded eyes like other people on here. I'll be seriously annoyed with Apple if my eyes aren't professional enough to see the OBVIOUS defects in their pathetic excuse for an iMac that's on its way to me. I'm a quick learner though. See how quickly I've adopted the random bold and capital letters style that seems to be de rigour on this message board, so eye-upgrading tips will be acted upon.
12" Powerbook G4 1.5GHz, 24" 2.8GHz iMac on its way!
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Re: Calling owners with good 20" Alum iMac screens - which mfg week is your
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Nov 14, 2007 1:30 AM
in response to: TallyHo
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Now, what about my EYES? I want professional, upgraded eyes like other people on here.
Sorry, I can't advise you on that one. I don't know of any place that does eye upgrades. If it makes you feel any better, I used a 17" iMac for three years and didn't notice the gradient effect until I tested for it. I suspect that it's less noticeable on a smaller screen.
I'll be seriously annoyed with Apple if my eyes aren't professional enough to see the OBVIOUS defects in their pathetic excuse for an iMac that's on its way to me.
Sorry again, but it's not a defect. The gradient effect is a common symptom of TN panel use. If it makes you feel any better, I don't notice the gradient effect on my 20" aluminum iMac any more than I did on my 17" iMac.
iMac 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Mac OS X (10.5)
The more I think, the more I think I shouldn't think more.
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Re: Calling owners with good 20" Alum iMac screens - which mfg week is your
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Nov 14, 2007 10:09 AM
in response to: Ian Lo
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My iMac is the cheapest new one you can buy. I have some experience in graphic design and image editing, so I would say that I can notice the difference in gradient on the monitor. My iMac is from the week of the 35 and I purchased my machine from the Apple Online Store, 2 days after the Aluminum iMac was announced. So far I do NOT have a problem with my monitor. It isn't the highest quality display, but I don't have gradient issues.
Someone said they wanted to see a screenshot of the "good" displays... I want to see a "bad" one. I haven't seen a bad iMac display anywhere (white or alum).
aluminum iMac 2.0ghz
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From:
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Re: Calling owners with good 20" Alum iMac screens - which mfg week is your
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Nov 14, 2007 10:47 AM
in response to: Pablodius
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Someone said they wanted to see a screenshot of the "good" displays... I want to see a "bad" one. I haven't seen a bad iMac display anywhere (white or alum).
Ooh! You just hit the jackpot.
Feast your eyes on these "even better ... more professional ... upgraded" beauties,
and the "even worser" white C2D they replaced.
http://picasaweb.google.com/TheLooby
...this must be your lucky day,
Looby
White 20" C2D
Mac OS X (10.4.10)
One measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions.
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Re: Calling owners with good 20" Alum iMac screens - which mfg week is your
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Nov 14, 2007 4:01 PM
in response to: The Looby
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Message was edited by: Washac
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