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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
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Jan 25, 2009 6:37 AM
in response to: masto
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Adding my voice to the cacophony. I, too, am experiencing this frustrating situation.
Macbook Pro 15"
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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Jan 16, 2009
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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
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Jan 25, 2009 1:28 PM
in response to: LEgregius
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Using the 10.5.5 version of the Carbon framework seems to break cameras linking up with iPhoto. Carbon 10.5.5 seems to be missing a symbol, which is an expected issue with using the wrong version of the library.
I ended up writing a little script to start eclipse that switches the library, starts eclipse, then switches it back. It uses sudo, so I have to type my password each time I run it, but it works.
#!/bin/bash
CARB_FRAM=/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework
sudo mv $CARB_FRAM ${CARB_FRAM}.1056
sudo mv ${CARB_FRAM}.1055 $CARB_FRAM
/Applications/eclipse/Eclipse.app/Contents/MacOS/eclipse &
sudo mv $CARB_FRAM ${CARB_FRAM}.1055
sudo mv ${CARB_FRAM}.1056 $CARB_FRAM
MacBook Pro
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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New York, NY
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Jan 26, 2009
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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
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Jan 26, 2009 11:13 AM
in response to: masto
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This is exemplary of Mac's decline from grace. Once a solid OS that provided a viable alternative to its bloated competitors, Mac becomes more and more similar with each new release to the unstable junk that forced so many of us to switch to it... All the senseless animations (why do I need all that black crap around my "save" window?) and endless bugs (Filemaker crashes at least twice daily, keyboard format constantly switches between US & Dvorak, MacBook will not shut down without doing a hard force-shutdown, etc) have it on the fast track to Windows XP...
All that said, this bug also affects MS Word & Excel on my machine, as well as MovieMagic Screenwriter. Get it together, Apple. Or the OS9 users who led the charge to your newfound success will lead the charge away from the junk you've been peddling (and weakly supporting) for the past year...
MacBook 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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Apr 23, 2008
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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
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Jan 26, 2009 1:04 PM
in response to: LEgregius
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It also seems to break some keyboard shortcuts in Finder. Things that don't work anymore with the 10.5.5 version of the framework: <enter> to edit a file name, cursor keys when editing a file name. Clearly the workaround isn't perfect. Will use something similar to your script to switch between the two versions of the framework as needed. Good idea!
To Apple: please do bump the priority of this bug. It has been six weeks now!
iMac G5
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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May 12, 2006
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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
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Jan 28, 2009 9:41 AM
in response to: Dave Bolme
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Another Carbon app that breaks: Prism Graphpad.
MacBook Pro
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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California
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Jul 5, 2008
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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
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Jan 28, 2009 10:06 PM
in response to: masto
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10.5.6 breaks keyboard shortcuts in MacSpeech Dictate. Dictate uses AppleScripts for its keyboard shortcut macros.
Under 10.5.5, an AppleScript that referenced key POSITION would break when keyboard layout changed from US to Dvorak. Here's an example (for boldfacing, Command-B):
set _currentAppName to short name of (info for (path to frontmost application as alias))
try
tell application "System Events"
tell process _currentAppName
key code 11 using {command down}
end tell
end tell
end try
The crucial bit is the line "key code 11 using {command down}", which references a physical keyboard address. Right under QWERTY; wrong under Dvorak.
Change the script to reference the key CONTENT (the letter typed), and it works fine for both US and Dvorak under 10.5. The key bit is the line "keystroke "b" using {command down}":
set _currentAppName to short name of (info for (path to frontmost application as alias))
try
tell application "System Events"
tell process _currentAppName
keystroke "b" using {command down}
end tell
end tell
end try
I got all this working under 10.5.5, then 10.5.6 broke it. 
Apple, please fix this! If it's broken in AppleScript, that breaks a LOT of other stuff.
MacBook
Mac OS X (10.5.4)
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From:
Oak Park, IL
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Jan 30, 2009
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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
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Jan 30, 2009 3:22 PM
in response to: masto
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Sadly, I'm having this same problem. And I believe my 10.5.5 Carbon.framework is gone.
Help us, Apple! Help us!
-Hushpuppy
MacBook Pro
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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Australia
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Sep 17, 2007
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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
Posted:
Feb 3, 2009 7:53 PM
in response to: masto
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Just adding my 2c. Problems in Office Word 2008, but also in the very cool application switcher LiteSwitch (which, unfortunately, seems to have disappeared off the net..?)
Macbook
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California
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Feb 5, 2009
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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
Posted:
Feb 5, 2009 7:48 PM
in response to: masto
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Having the same problems with Eclipse, Aptana Studio (based on Eclipse), and Word. Very, very frustrating!
MacBook Pro
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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Sep 6, 2006
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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
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Feb 12, 2009 1:54 PM
in response to: masto
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A Java update just came out -- has anyone tried it? I'm keeping my machine on 10.5.5 because this bug makes it impossible for me to work.
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Seattle, WA
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Jan 7, 2009
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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
Posted:
Feb 12, 2009 2:21 PM
in response to: masto
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Thanks for the tip - I just installed the update, and no change. My Eclipse 3.4-based IDE still exhibits the behavior.
For those that are Eclipse users, I have verified that 3.5M4 does not suffer from this problem at all.
MacBook Pro
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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Paris, France
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Feb 16, 2009
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Re: 10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse
Posted:
Feb 16, 2009 5:53 AM
in response to: masto
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I'm using an old French ADB II Keyboard on a Mac Pro. So I had to define a layout and did so with Ukelele.
Same problem with 10.5.6 : Command-Keys were broken in Eclipse 3.4 and Office 2008.
I tried several solutions but discovered that it worked not only with the default Apple Bundle but with the Logitech one too which came with my wireless mouse.
And this a .rsrc file.
So I copied it, edited it with ResKnife to adapt it to the ADB keyboard and it works fine.
Maybe something equivalent can be done with the DVORAK Keyboard.
MacPro, MacBookPro
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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From:
Cary, NC
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Dec 22, 2008
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Does 10.5.7 seed fix this problem?
Posted:
Feb 26, 2009 9:11 AM
in response to: masto
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Apple just seeded 10.5.7 to developers. Does anyone have access to this? Can you test to see if it fixes the Dvorak/10.5.6 problem?
17" MacBook Pro
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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From:
USA
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Jan 16, 2009
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Re: Does 10.5.7 seed fix this problem?
Posted:
Feb 27, 2009 1:05 PM
in response to: johncarync
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According to the notes for seed:
Issue with Text Services Manager and Dvorak Keyboard layout fixed
I don't have access to it to try it.
MacBook Pro
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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From:
Eugene, OR
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Jul 13, 2006
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Re: Does 10.5.7 seed fix this problem?
Posted:
Mar 10, 2009 2:02 PM
in response to: LEgregius
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Adding my voice and hoping that 10.5.7 fixes the problem. I agree with those above: its ridiculous for such a bug to persist this long.
Macbook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel core 2 duo
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
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