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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 17, 2006 7:22 AM
in response to: Belarmino Rimada
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i went into utilities then to disk utilities and see disk utilities first aid...i will try to do this to see if it helps...still hoping to hear about how to defrag.
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 17, 2006 9:30 AM
in response to: Vincent Cecilia
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Hi Vincent...well to defrag you need other app, like norton, techtool etc...as far as I know...correctme if Im wrong. What I use to give maintenance to my PB its a program called YASU, you can search the web for it. I use it regularly, but I also use the original Instalation CD to repair disk and permissions.
Also, try reseting the PRAM and all those things that are mentioned in some threads. With the years, I have seen how my macs are more like another person, not always they behave the same, sometimes I feel that the have life on their own...so knowing your mac, talking to it with care and love...does make them good...I think,they are more like girls, youll never know when they are goning to panic, get angry, behave sluggish, or just let you work as you need...fast and without a complaint.
Keep posting if your setting worked to fix your freezes or if any other thing solved.
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 17, 2006 10:25 AM
in response to: Belarmino Rimada
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thanks for the yasu headsup. im running it as we speak and let me add that the disk utilities first aid seems to have made a substantial difference on its own thus far...now im counting on yasu to finish doing the job...i still would like to find out just how to defrag...on my windows based computers that tast was done using windows itself, there was no need to use a different product such as norton. im going to look into how to reset pram and what that might do.
thanks for the input, yasu looks like a very necessary tool.
regards
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 17, 2006 12:34 PM
in response to: Belarmino Rimada
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ok, so it seems that the yasu and the disk repair must have done something substantial, after running it all day the pbook whizzed through all tasks and then just now near the end of my day it is showing signs of reverting to its old self except with much better behaviour than before. i was very glad to have gone through my day whizzing through tasks.
is there a defrag function on an apple...?
i wish you all the best also.
i had read on another thread that quicktime 7.1.2 was causing problems ...someone had deduced that it wasnt 10.4.7 but that it was quicktime causing some slowdowns...if i find the thread again ill post it here.
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 17, 2006 1:22 PM
in response to: Vincent Cecilia
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there is also another thread under safari that mentions the spinning wheel of death or some such remark about a freeze that seems to be attributed to the ammount of memory that safari uses.
THE freeze attributed to different causes.
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 17, 2006 1:32 PM
in response to: Vincent Cecilia
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MacOS automatically reallocates many files, when it's not otherwise busy.
(Some it doesn't do, such as very large ones.) You can buy defragmenting software, but to be honest I've never seen the point (and there's a data-loss risk to running such things too.)
If you're seeing the spinning ball a lot, I would guess that you have something using a lot of memory. It often appears when extra swap (paging) files are being created or formerly inactive programs being brought back into RAM.
You could use Activity Monitor to see if there are some extra large programs (Safari is a common culprit, for me. For just a web browser it seems to quickly consume a lot of memory, so its worth restarting it every so often.)
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 17, 2006 1:52 PM
in response to: Belarmino Rimada
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I am still curious to see if using that higher mhz memory of a MacBook, if it could be a possible solution as someone above suggested.
Again, I was not aware that MacBook ram could work with the last revision PowerBooks. I will be eagerly awaiting other peoples experience regarding this.
Cheers.
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 17, 2006 2:30 PM
in response to: jrg_uk
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thanks for the input. i will be running the opera browser most of the time, i have a lot of windows running during the day and they were all safari so maybe that was the source of my problem. however i am glad i discovered yasu thanks to the very pertinent input on this board.
thank you all and good luck, i will keep reading the thread and keep learning.
i am glad i can like my pbook again... it may have the potential to last many years.
by the way do you think i could benefit from additional memory.
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 19, 2006 8:09 AM
in response to: Andy_B
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I am waiting too, my PB still runs without freezes with Macbook 768 MB RAM. It would be very nice if anybody else could try using 2 GB Macbook Ram with his PB 1,67 Ghz.
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 21, 2006 2:03 PM
in response to: Belarmino Rimada
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Seems like there is still a lot of frustration in this forum. I have finally found some free time to have my RAM replaced. This is based on the assumption that several months have passed since I bought the RAM, so if I get it replaced under warranty, the new stuff will definitely not be from the same manufacturing batch as the problematic ones.
I have 2x 1GB SO-DIMMs. To not have downtime, I have mailed them back one at a time. So far, I have received one replacement. Now I have been running on 1x (new) 1GB SO-DIMM with Nap turned back on for four days without a crash.
Soon I will receive the second replacement and I will be running back at full capacity, and hopefully it will remain crash-free.
Folks, as I've posited before, this is most likely a RAM issue, compounded by the possibility that our PowerBook motherboard is operating at the edge (or beyond) slated tolerance for this type of RAM. Though I cited some horror stories, replacing hardware is still the best way to go. This is in no way a software issue, despite what some misinformed posters have been suggesting. Those who have valiantly sacrificed their lives doing clean installs have provided the evidence.
So if people can try to call up their RAM maker and invoke the warranty service, it's definitely the best solution to try.
PS, our motherboards operate at 333 MHz, so that is already lower than the rated 533 MHz of the RAM that is specified to be compatible. (Dirty little secret: depending on manufacturing methods, 667 MHz "MacBook RAM" may even be of the same production as 533, and the maker just tests them to find their maximum speed to decide which sticker to slap on). It's definitely a way to go and you'll have to decide if you want to spring the big bucks.
Everyone, please try to get your RAM replaced at least once, first, before looking for other solutions. Like me, you can wait a little while to make sure you get something from a different manufacturing batch. Both my original SO-DIMMs were bad (determined by testing independently) and their serial numbers were back-to-back, so they came off the packaging line one after another.
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 21, 2006 3:05 PM
in response to: Derivatize
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FYI, I did replace my RAM once and completely changed manufacturers as well.
I had the same crashing results.
NAP off has totally solved my crashing issues.
I have tested turning the NAP on again - and I crash when I do it...
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 21, 2006 4:17 PM
in response to: clay-walk
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Well, that's a huge drag. Why don't we throw some names out?
clay-walk, from before I gather you are operating on Edge brand memory?
I am running on Corsair ValueSelect.
Seems like some others are running Kingston like csean.
Other people are just being too vague and not trying out the Nap test.
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 21, 2006 7:05 PM
in response to: Derivatize
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As RAM is a mentioned possible culprit-- which it was for my freezes-- I'll include my info.
My Aluminum came w/ the 512MB original
Ordered a 1GB from OWC. Lots of freezes (even on it's own)
Tried the replacement chip they sent me. Same thing.
Guy I talked to the last time mentioned how some machines have had particularly picky memory modules (I'm pretty sure that's what he called them) and suggested trying the factory original Samsung chip. [in the mean time, they had checked the RAM I had sent back and it worked for them]
I've been up and running just over 31 days with the 1GB Samsung and my original 512MB.
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 21, 2006 7:28 PM
in response to: Derivatize
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Derivatize:
I agree with half of what you are saying: it is a hardware problem. But I don't think it is the specific ram -- unless I missed it no one has gotten this machine to work sans freezes with 2GB of ram from any vendor, unless they turn off the nap function. These are the constants:
-15in HR Powerbook 1.67GHz late 2005 production
-2x 1GB SO-DIMM.
If anyone has made this exact config work consistently w/o freezing over an extended period (30 days or more), without turning off the nap, please come forward!!!
-David
PowerMac G5 Quad, PB 15HR, TiBook, Pismo, iBook toilet seat Mac OS X (10.4)
PowerMac G5 Quad, PB 15HR, TiBook, Pismo, iBook toilet seat
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Re: A way to stop the Freezes in some PowerBooks.
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Aug 22, 2006 2:16 AM
in response to: David Heintz
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I have the 17" HR powerbook 1.67, purchased in Mar. '06, (5,9)
2 Edge 1 GB chips (replaced 2 Kingston 1 GB chips)
no crashes with NAP off in nearly 2 full months.
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