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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Aug 25, 2006 8:23 AM
in response to: James King-Holmes
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yes, good point. there are two issues described in this thread. however, by far most of the posts are pertaining to the emergency sleep mode caused by an overtemp signal.
is someone able to start a new thread and post the link here?
if apple does peruse these discussions we must really let them know that this is an apparent problem, and then they can make the decision to fix it.
by the way, while speaking to an apple genius, a comment from the employee slipped out that these forums/discussions are completely useless. i wonder if that is the view of the entire apple company.
if not, then prove us wrong apple.
thanks.
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Aug 25, 2006 10:15 AM
in response to: Jackk Spratt
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I am loyal MAC user and have been for years. We have 4 MAC's in our house but, I work for HP. You got it!!! Unless, I find a suitable resloution I plan make a large purchase at our company store.
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Aug 25, 2006 7:40 PM
in response to: Jackk Spratt
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During our relief work in Aceh I had to switch back to a Toshiba laptop running XP Home to interface with the sat phone on our ship. What a nightmare! The real issue here is that Windows is such a complete dogs breakfast and regardless of the hardware, I wont be shifting backwards into that quagmire of nerd nonsense....
What we need is for a 3rd party to build better quality laptops that run OS X & Windows apps. Remember about 10 years ago there were a few companies building Mac boxes that worked ok...
It has always been the intuitive and well integrated operating system that keep me faithful to Apple... maybe we are seeing growing pains and maybe they will get over it... but that is more likely if a lot of users make a lot of noise about glitches like this trackpad fiasco.
I dont want to bash Apple.... just a gentle kick in the gonads should do it.
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Aug 25, 2006 11:52 PM
in response to: intalismo
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Intalismo wrote 'by far most of the posts are pertaining to the emergency sleep mode caused by an overtemp signal' but I think we need to be careful as all we know is that the sleep mode is associated with the trackpad overtemp, with no causation proved. For instance, my Mac had a narcoleptic episode this morning shortly after booting, with hardly any temperature rise from cold. Also there have been Console references to Bluetooth, and this has not really been investigated, so I think more in terms of the pre-OSX extensions conflicts than simple one-agent causes. Another reason for my not accepting this temperature explanation is that I work with an extension monitor, and although the display disappears from my Powerbook screen it quite happily continues on the other screen. As I write this, my PB screen is black, & I am working on the other monitor. I think that rather than get into a scrap about Windows v Mac, it would be more productive for everyone to, for instance, try a similar diagnostic proceedure to compare results before tackling Apple, so we can present a coherent story. I am no techie, so I would be willing for someone with more knowledge than I to draw up a simple set of tests so that we can eliminate some things, & maybe point up others.... James
15" 1.67Ghz 1 Gb Powerbook PPC G4 Mac OS X (10.4.7) 15" Titanium 550 Mhz 512Mb Powerbook
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Aug 26, 2006 7:51 AM
in response to: James King-Holmes
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OK I have previously posted about a fix for Narcoleptic Powerbook, that involves using some root-access terminal commands in order to remove some System/Library/Extension files, and that allows a faulty top-case/trackpad temp sensor computer to run despite faulty hardware.
Now things turned worse with my laptop. Apparently, my Powerbook is now running WITHOUT the relevant sensor-files, and was doing so OK until 3 days ago.
Then, the machine started going into deep-sleeping at random despite absent system files. I tried various options and found, that my system.log file (like you can read through Console) logged a range of errors, between 'loop' error related to some network activity, to 'bluetooth' errors. All were effectively stopped by turning off the PMU.
However, turning off the PMU will also disable the battery read-out that has various disadvantages, you can't use software to shut down the machine, you can't put it to sleep. Furthermore, disabling the PMU had my Powerbook do then crash / do instant complete shutdowns similar to reports about MacBook (Pro)s named "Random Shutdown": The computer would simply, every 7-20 minutes, shut down completely without any warning. This is taking the severity of the perceived problem, in my view, a step further.
This new aggravation of the problem effectively makes my Powerbook largely useless for what I bought it for.
At this point in time, I am interested to find out these:
(1) Is there an understanding about the underlying true error, by users / and or by Apple? As far as it appears to me, some hardware components really heat up, and maybe a hardware damage extends? Is it the battery? Even without battery, my errors / faulty behaviour as observed, persists. If there is no understanding of the error, why would I believe they fixed it in their new laptops?
(2) Is the new MacBook/Pro designed similarly? It does appear so, reading various "Random Shutdown" reports of MacBook/Pros. Are current models sold faulty, or "fixed"? If the error has not been addressed, and seems to persist in the new hardware, how can we understand Apple's position towards this issue?
(3) Are there any news from Apple, or rumors, or leaked insider information, that they are seriously releasing new laptop hardware that is fixing this issue? Is there a task force, or a system engineer, who can type up a 'current problem' white paper, that helps us all cope with this?
Right now, I am in a real need for a reliable  X-windows capable, fast lean mean laptop - and I strongly favor a stable over unreliable hardware. I am not able to provide the downtime required to get Apple to learn from their mistakes with me paying their overhead. With the amount of attention the current malfunction requires, I may as well use a tiny bit less comfortable environment such as Linux.
So if there are no cogent, direct and reliable answers about this issue from Apple within the very foreseeable future, I'll follow through with previous business decisions to move more of my own computing / application domains over to Linux/Unix and then start to use PC laptop hardware.
But at this moment, I do hope Apple will release the required software to run this piece of "special" hardware.
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Aug 26, 2006 2:24 PM
in response to: Wolf Schweitzer1
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Recapping - when my PB goes into random sleep, all the functions are transferred to my external monitor. The 'fix' is to click on the 'Detect Displays' drop-down in System Preferences to return to 2-screen working but this did not seem to work lately. However, I have noticed that if I just used the external monitor for a while leaving the PB display black then the 'Detect Displays' fix worked & I was back to normal (for anyone wondering why this matters, I work with my Photoshop tools on the PB display & images on a profiled CRT monitor). This would indicate to me that only the display was going into sleep mode, possibly due to overheating of some component, and that when it cooled down the normal configuration would be OK to revert. Does this make sense with anyone else's experience?... james
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Makes some sense to me.
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Aug 26, 2006 2:44 PM
in response to: James King-Holmes
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When my PowerBook was exhibiting this behavior I found that if I was quick I could often prevent a deep sleep. I got into the habit of constantly hovering my left pinky over the Caps Lock key. I used that key because if it lit I was fairly confident that machine would be waking up. If it did not light, I never did discover a reliable remedy. I would escalate trying different things. Frequently I resorted to pulling out the battery and holding down the power button. It was only when my reflexes were failing to provide a work-around and the period between N.A.C. episodes shortened that did I become frustrated enough to seek out this thread. The serendipity seems remarkably implausible, but perhaps this subject comes up every few months? I never did try an external display, but your experience seem wholly compatible with my own.
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Software versus hardware
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Aug 26, 2006 3:05 PM
in response to: Wolf Schweitzer1
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I am still quite skeptical of a software patch for something I believe to be a hardware failure. It seems to me that disabling the PMU, or even just the errant sensor, could very well cause new bad effects or exacerbate the existing problem. The “solution” you posted, while very clever, deliberately masks the spurious results of the trackpad sensor. It does not correct the root cause.
I agree with you that there may be an inherit design flaw. I have no idea if the Apple Care repair merely replaced something that should not have broken in the first place. I have no idea if they replaced it with something new and improved, or merely identical parts that may indeed fail in exactly the same way.
Further, I agree with you that Apple should replace the defective parts even on PowerBooks not covered by Apple Care, much as they are doing now with the battery recall. But I also would not be surprised if Apple voids the warranty of anyone caught using your elegant hack.
I still am very curious as to why Apple is replacing the “top case” as part of the repair. I put top case in quotes because I do not believe that means lid with the screen, as mine came back with an identifying sticker still attached.
Finally, who uses a PowerBook on a boat? Would not an iBook be much better suited to rough handling? I know I am not nearly as gentle with mine as I wish I could be. I would have gotten an iBook but the agency I work for has a policy against purchasing “merely” consumer grade computers. The light up keyboard is sweet though. As is the ability to swap batteries without restarting. But these two features do not justify the cost difference for my use.
We ruled out the 10.4.7 update as a confounding factor. But what about this: Is everyone else here relatively (physically) hard on their PowerBook? Be honest!
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Re: Software versus hardware
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Aug 26, 2006 9:04 PM
in response to: Bruce Bailey 496
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Bruce, I'm not so sure that this is a simple hardware only issue.
1) If this is purely a faulty trackpad sensor, then why are Apple replacing the top cover AND the motherboard when they fix 'puters with warranty cover?
2) Why would Wolf's computer start sleeping even after he hacked his OS code to remove the trackpad sensor from the feedback loop?
3) Why does N.A.P. sleep leave a second monitor alive and the rest of the PB functioning? (this one is VERY weird)
4) Why does my trackpad read 96 deg C some times, 24 deg C on occasions and 0 deg C a lot of the time without any discernable pattern to explain these readings. Some owners report trackpad temps fluctuating wildly but mine stay rock solid. If the sensor is the only thing that is at fault surely we would see some consistent readings (false readings)
As for the way we treat powerbooks, I can say that mine has been handled with care but has had a few 'accidents' along the way. My old titanium went to sea and was dropped, bashed, and abused in Aceh for months..... it worked fine but was sadly stolen.
The new aluminium PB has been in my hands less than a year and it is the one making my life miserable. I had to spend over $800 on a new screen after a friend leaned his elbow on the closed puter for a second or so... the screen cracked and fair enough, it was my fault.
In any case my warranty turned out to be expired cause the South African shop that sold me the 'puter had not told me that I was buying a 'returner' that was already 7 months into its warranty period....charming hey! Not Apples responsibility but disappointing.
We had a lightning strike that knocked out my internal modem... so running on an external now. My powersupply died recently.... less than a year of use???? another $120. Ran my old titanium through a heap of lightning spikes without a problem so the new 'puters are FRAGILE.
I have noticed a few more 'symptoms' recently that worry me a lot.
a) external modem logs off randomly. Takes 5 -7 tries to get on-line and stay on line.
b) apps are giving me the spinning beach ball blues constantly... Mail is particularly bad in this respect.
c) Often things start going so weird in my apps that I have to restart to get any performance at all. It feels like the processor is stalling and like I'm working in slow motion.
d) Safari and Mail keep crashing. In one Mail crash, some mail in my inbox ended up with the wrong subject line... or more accurately subject lines from other mails were attached to subsequent mails contents... Now that is very scary! In 25 years of using a computer on many platforms I have NEVER seen or heard of this happening.
May be unrelated. Anyone else notice their N.A.P. aflicted PB is running strangely ..... when it is running that is.
I've sent endless reports, complaints, cries for help to Apple. They remain numb, dumb and mute ..... asleep it seems..... narcoleptic maybe?
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Re: Software versus hardware
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Aug 27, 2006 3:22 AM
in response to: Bruce Bailey 496
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But what about this: Is everyone else here relatively (physically) hard on their PowerBook? Be honest!
That's a brilliant question, but how to grade/weigh answers in estimating the true amount of power that's hacked down onto the top case part?
I had no problems with the Powerbook, while I was simply having it up in the living room, and doing the odd (gentle) news reading on it on a web browser. So I would typically open the lid, then use the Trackpad, mostly with that double-touch-feature, so it'd 'double click' and so didn't even use that button for clicking. All in all, I was giving that "top case" part the most gentle treatment ever, until day X.
On day X two or three months back, I started to work on an assignment that had me type and go back and forth between applications, and use the web browser to look up terms and definitions of words. I normally do this on the desktop, but with nice weather and summer, I decided to use the laptop for that and sit upstairs / outside. This was the start of a much more normal usage of the Powerbook than previously, which was carrying it with satin gloves, so to speak.
When typing, my hands would rest on the top case, and when using the trackpad, this time, usage would have me type on the keyboard for several hours per day - obviously mechanically a higher strain - and I'd also use the button for clicking (rather than just double tapping the trackpad). Some four to six weeks into this usage, the first narcoleptic symptoms occured, and it had never, ever, done that before.
Seeing as if that's the type of usage I'd use a laptop currently and into the future, I'd surely expect a laptop to withstand and support it. If Apple has problems with this, why not sell a "typing user"'s version that has a re-inforced top case and that goes along with 400g more weight? I'd get that in a flash. Now, I have never, ever, killed a keyboard, or a mouse/mouse button, before, and I use computers since 1984. I have never, ever, killed the top case part of any other laptop in my life before, and I use laptops regularly since 1997. So in my view, I'm very well in the middle range of average usage with the load I'm putting on, and this particular design of Powerbook seems to be at the very bottom of quality of construction. That's how I'd look at it, and I've seen quite a number of usage / construction combinations.
If any part that's simply replacable for up to 100 US$ goes broke, I don't care about that. If I use the keyboard for heavy typing and if, hypothetically, the keyboard would require replacement, and I could get that as a plug-out-plug-in-fix, I'd be ok with that.
For Apple to put major system-circuit-relevant parts into a place where these get banged against other hardware by obviously "typical usage", and to then not to inform users on how to handle that delicate piece of design requires a far more sophisticated approach to selling this computer. That requires (a) education, (b) restriction of usage, if they want to keep a user happy.
I have no warranty on my machine anyway, so my question is really whether to sink 1000 bucks (1) into a repair, OR a (2) new Apple laptop, OR into a different PC laptop that I can the set up with Linux. Since both options (1) and (2) have me giving more money to Apple, I am now quite aware of the fact that they are highly likely to replace the defective parts with similarly sensitive and not-fit-for-usage parts, and seeing as if that's the innuendo being discussed right now, any sensible person can see that Apple ideally would address this real quick. If they don't address that, there must be something going on inside their business, which - no matter what it is - does say, in a very booming loud voice "buy NO more hardware from these people", as there is no polite explanation to what's going on right now. Right now, I hypothesize that Apple is really strong on software (OS X, applications), and they are not just mediocre (we knew that all along) but weak (since 2 years at least) when it comes to the specifics of hardware function.
Right now, I am not willing to trying to justify YET another Apple hardware disaster in our household, and so I'm waiting for a very clear and very outspoken statement by Apple that admits the problems, explains them, lays them down in front of our eyes and offers a bargain fix. If they are not going to do that within the very foreseeable future, I look into moving application and setup domains over to other hardware and, obviously, software.
Within the last 3 years, most of our determining hardware / software has moved FROM Apple, mostly due to their failure to provide full and timely 64-bit support after promising it, and due to their failure to provide stable and reliable laptop hardware - and now, I find that my loyalty since 1986 is not met with an outspoken clearness about technical issues but with silence. So, I have to say, this is surely not what I had hoped for.
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Re: Software versus hardware
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Aug 27, 2006 3:42 AM
in response to: Wolf Schweitzer1
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In reply to Wolf's question about physically hard usage, I can say that although I do occasionally take it out & about with me, most of the time it stays on my desktop, hooked up to various drives, monitors etc, but switched off most nights. Since the overheating problem came up, the PB has been sitting on a pad of yellow 'Post-it' notes at each corner to let air circulate beneath.Rick Cameron mentioned how wierd it was that my PB continued to work on the external monitor, but I think it is very significant. We know that there are separate prefs for display sleep & computer sleep - why should it not be just the display that is narcoleptic, which would normally appear as a total laptop sleep, unless an external monitor showed otherwise?
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Re: Software versus hardware
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Aug 27, 2006 4:22 AM
in response to: James King-Holmes
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James, My last titanium PB was a brick. Bloody Rolls Royce in terms of construction. These new units feel flimsy and lightweight.... in a negative way. Paint scratches and some of the paint around my keyboard has kinda disolved under the influence of normal healthy human sweat! A serious worry now that we are seening the more crippling failures start to crop up.
Think the fact that that your puter continues to run with the screen dead is of huge importance. Are your system logs showing an overtemp emergency sleep record? Recall you have mentioned this before but this thread is getting to be so long and fragmented that I cant find it.
IF your logs show a system sleep but in fact your computer is running a second monitor, we have a much more complex situation on our hands.
That is not a track pad sensor failure but something much more serious.... which maybe explains why Apple have been replacing the top cover (with trackpad) AND the motherboard on victims who have warranty cover. Feel we should zoom in on this issue.
If you are able to operate the computer fine but only see what you are doing via a second monitor....this is a very scary situation.
When I think of the number of times i hit random key combos to try to wake mine up... wonder what I trashed in the process. Rick
ps. I hear you guys on changing to a more durable computer but right now I have too much invested in my Macs and so not practical.... but I will be looking for 2nd hand machines next upgrade rather than buying the latest model from Apple.
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Everyone’s definition of rough handling will be different…
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Aug 27, 2006 7:36 AM
in response to: Wolf Schweitzer1
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I don’t think “hard” means resting your hands on the top case! I mean routine wear and tear that the PowerBook should be up for but maybe is still more than average.
For my part, I use the PowerBook five days a week or more, twice a day at least (commuting). It is not my main machine, but it is constantly in and out of the case or shoved under the couch or the like. Nothing that think that constitutes abuse, and I do not recall any significant drops, but the bag falls off my shoulder sometimes, people and things bump into it, and I have kids.
I have been quite happy with it compared to a first generation Titanium, which gently bowed if I lifted it from the corner with one hand, or couldn’t access the optical disc drive if my hand was resting on the palm rest! In between I had a white G3 iBook I regarded as upgrade from the Ti PowerBook.
I would be much less sanguine about this were it not for the problem being covered by Apple Care. I regard the iBooks as remarkable value and the PowerBooks as being for people who should not be sweating details like buying the extended warranty or not. Even having the rare lemon, you are IMHO much better off taking your chances with Apple than giving up on OS X over this.
I agree that this problem most likely arises from defective design. It is too soon to be sure that Apple will never fess up. The way I see it, you have three poor choices:
(1) Keep complaining to anyone who will listen. Maybe Apple will do the honorable thing sooner than latter. In the meantime, you still do not have a useable portable.
(2) Jump ship to Windows or Linux. Apple will not get your money, but you have a good idea of the nightmare you will be embracing!
(3) Pony up the $1000 and hope Apple eventually issues a recall and reimburses you.
(4) Buy a new MacBook (Pro) with Apple Care. If Apple eventually issues a recall, you will have an extra older machine you can sell on eBay or whatever.
The downside to (3) and (4) is that both involve you giving money to Apple, which obviously leaves a bad taste in your mouth right now, but really both options are more constructive than (1) and (2).
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Top cover is not the lid!
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Aug 27, 2006 10:10 AM
in response to: Rick Cameron
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Okay, I am only just now figuring out that the top cover is the keyboard/trackpad housing…
1) If this is purely a faulty trackpad sensor, then
why are Apple replacing the top cover AND the
motherboard when they fix 'puters with warranty
cover?
Because trackpad temperature sensor that breaks is on the motherboard, but it only breaks in the first place because of a design flaw of the top cover?
2) Why would Wolf's computer start sleeping even
after he hacked his OS code to remove the trackpad
sensor from the feedback loop?
Because the hardware failure can partially worked around by a software hack?
3) Why does N.A.P. sleep leave a second monitor alive
and the rest of the PB functioning? (this one is VERY
weird)
Because the spurious reading only lasts a fraction of a second? If the sensor is sure there is an overtemp, why would my quickly pressing the caps lock key interrupt the sleep shut down? Short circuits can exhibit very strange behavior, so this troubles me not at all.
4) Why does my trackpad read 96 deg C some times, 24
deg C on occasions and 0 deg C a lot of the time
without any discernable pattern to explain these
readings.
Because the failure is causing random errors? Obviously, the 96° and 0° values are not false, but the OS is not smart enough to disregard them.
Some owners report trackpad temps
fluctuating wildly but mine stay rock solid.
Mine jumped around. I think the solid errant values are less common, and maybe not the same problem at all! I least with steady absurd values it should be easier to demonstrate the failure to Apple.
If the sensor is the only thing that is at fault surely
we would see some consistent readings (false readings)
Why? I don’t think that follows. I think it depends how the sensor is failing.
As for the way we treat powerbooks, I can say that
mine has been handled with care but has had a few
'accidents' along the way.
Okay, any one of those few could be the root cause.
My old titanium went to
sea and was dropped, bashed, and abused in Aceh for
months..... it worked fine but was sadly stolen.
I had much poorer luck with the Ti Books.
The new aluminium PB has been in my hands less than a
year and it is the one making my life miserable.
I think you got a lemon. I believe PowerBook lemons to be rare, but that doesn’t help you
I had to spend over $800 on a new screen after a
friend leaned his elbow on the closed puter for a
second or so... the screen cracked and fair enough,
it was my fault.
How much weight did he put on it? My six year old has stepped on mine at least once! (Much to my alarm, but no harm came of it.)
In any case my warranty turned out to be expired
cause the South African shop that sold me the 'puter
had not told me that I was buying a 'returner' that
was already 7 months into its warranty
period....charming hey! Not Apples responsibility but
disappointing.
You obviously had the bad luck to purchase from a disreputable dealer. Maybe the first person did not treat it right, or had already discovered buggy behavior.
We had a lightning strike that knocked out my
internal modem... so running on an external now. My
powersupply died recently.... less than a year of
use???? another $120. Ran my old titanium through a
heap of lightning spikes without a problem so the new
'puters are FRAGILE.
My office purchased four early model Titaniums. They got the owners lots of attention, they were strikingly different from anything else on the market. Only one still works. That is the shortest shelf life I have ever experienced with Apple computers.
I have noticed a few more 'symptoms' recently that
worry me a lot.
Some cars seem to be lemons, not so much necessary the whole model line, just the one specific unit. Could not the same thing occasionally happen with computers?
I've sent endless reports, complaints, cries for help
to Apple. They remain numb, dumb and mute .....
asleep it seems..... narcoleptic maybe?
If they are not going to admit that one reproducible fault is not a design flaw that should be repaired out of warranty, why would they help you with the rest of your random problems? Not buying Apple Care is a gamble. You had great luck with an earlier Apple notebook, good for you, but you bought what turned out to be a used computer from a vendor who turned out to have, at best, misled you. You are taking this PowerBook with you around the world on a boat! It suffered an electrical strike sufficient to knock out the modem, and you admit other accidents!
I am sorry, but it seems to me that your expectations for Apple to take responsibility for the variety of problems is just not reasonable.
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Aug 27, 2006 11:19 AM
in response to: Haricot
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Arhhhhhh ... Update
It didn't last very long. I am back with random sleeps. At times I have to remove the battery and reset the PB, then boot.
PS holding down the keypad_click while pressing the space bar(or any other key I presume would work) seems to get it back for a little while...
I guess I'm going to have to send it to Apple... I appreciate all the posts in this thread.
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