Topic : Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"

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Boblive77


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Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Jan 19, 2008 11:45 AM
 

I am now using Gmail IMAP. Whenever I receive a new message, it shows up as unread in my inbox, obviously, AND in the folder [Gmail] > All Mail. To clear the unread message count in the Gmail folder, I have to click on each unread message in that folder (in addition to clearing them in my actual inbox). Is there any way to get rid of this annoyance... and also the hierarchy of folders under [Gmail]?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

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Boblive77


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Re: Duplicate unread messages!
Posted: Feb 16, 2008 8:52 AM   in response to: Boblive77
 

Anybody else experiencing this issue with Gmail IMAP? Unread messages showing up in inbox and also under the Gmail folder in Mail... Any way to just get rid of the Gmail hierarchy?

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reimer1606

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Re: Duplicate unread messages!
Posted: Feb 17, 2008 7:39 AM   in response to: Boblive77
 

I also experience this behaviour. I think this happens due to gmail's way of storing emails. Unfortunately, it seems as if gmail does not (yet) support to subscribe or unsubscribe from special folders (This behaviour also shows in Thunderbird). So it's more a gmail related than a Mac OS Mail related problem.
Maybe someone in the gmail help center or the corresponding google group can help you: http://mail.google.com/support/

If you do find a workaround or solution, please let me know.
Regards

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William Lloyd


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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Feb 17, 2008 8:02 AM   in response to: Boblive77
 

You can't modify Gmail's hierarchy of folders... it's fairly non-standard in the way it handles IMAP.

Note if you go to Gmail's help it explicitly tells you how to best configure Mail with their system (using specific folders for specific things). I recommend you have a read.

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reimer1606

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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Feb 17, 2008 8:12 AM   in response to: William Lloyd
 

I did read those help documents and configured Mail accordingly.
However, since you cannot unsubscribe from specific folders, the All Mail folder will always appear in your folder list in Mail. And since Gmail stores all mails in that folder (I think due to their conversations thingy), all unread mails will also pop up there.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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chrisss

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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Mar 3, 2008 10:09 PM   in response to: Boblive77
 

This was bothering me to no end. I found this in another forum and it has worked for me. I had to share. I hope it works for you too.

In your Account Preferences, under the Advanced Tab, set the IMAP Path Prefix to: Gmail

     
John Slaughter


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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Mar 17, 2008 7:03 AM   in response to: chrisss
 

Well, this got rid of the extra mail boxes... but it got rid of all mail boxes too. My inbox is now empty... I tried synchronizing, and when that didn't bring my messages back I just switched it back to the way it was. I'd rather have two copies of every message then to have none.

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pardthemonster


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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Mar 17, 2008 7:26 AM   in response to: chrisss
 

You mean set the IMAP path to "bracket"Gmail"bracket" as shown in the subject

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davosian

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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Apr 8, 2008 2:29 PM   in response to: pardthemonster
 

Yes, you can certainly do this, but it will also hide all your "label" folders, meaning you only have inbox, outbox, draft, trash, all mail and starred left - not very elegant either...

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lukasc

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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Apr 25, 2008 9:26 AM   in response to: davosian
 

The duplicate emails in "All Mail" and "Inbox" have also been bothering me.

By using "Gmail\Inbox" as the IMAP prefix, you only have the Inbox folder showing.

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George Pan


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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: May 14, 2008 10:35 AM   in response to: lukasc
 

I found in macosxhints an excellent method to prevent Mail.app synchronizing the All Mail folder. It's by user "ja" and can be found here: <http://www.macosxhints.com/comment.php?mode=display&format=threaded&order=ASC&pid=96614>.
Briefly, you need to open Terminal, use cd to go to $ΗΟΜΕ/Library/Mail/IMAP-youraccountname@gmail.com@imap.gmail.com/Gmail and delete (or move) the All Mail.imapmbox folder (e.g rm -rf "All Mail.imapmbox" - I assume you can also do than from the finder).
Then while still in the same directory (Gmail) type:
ln -s /dev/null "All Mail.imapmbox"
This creates an alias to /dev/null which is essentially a black hole. The All Mail folder in Mail.app will remain empty. There are no more duplicate messages and search works fine. I found this to be the best of the three hints mentioned in the same thread (<http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=200802081934189>).
George

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s_w_i_t_t_e_r_s

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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Jun 7, 2008 1:48 PM   in response to: George Pan
 

Thanks so much to George for this tip. It works well, except that there's a small error in the pathway listed in the first step. It should be Gmail in brackets at the end of the line rather than Gmail without brackets.

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s_w_i_t_t_e_r_s

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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Jun 9, 2008 8:01 PM   in response to: s_w_i_t_t_e_r_s
 

George,

I'm hoping you might still be following this thread. I went ahead and did what you and "ja" suggested and that did solve the problem of duplicates in my "All Mail" folder. However, search is no longer working properly. I enter a search term in Mail 3.0 and nothing comes up; but when I enter the same term in the Gmail web interface, I get results. Any ideas?

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George Pan


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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 10:22 PM   in response to: s_w_i_t_t_e_r_s
 

Sorry, I can't tell what the problem with search might be - it works fine for me. However, I am geting a different problem in that every time I open mail.app it attempts to re-download the entire All Mail folder, which can take a very long time depending on the size of it and the connection speed. This does not affect any other operation, but it is annoying to have the progress bar running all the time.

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a_caxtonian

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Re: Gmail IMAP: New mail in Inbox AND "[Gmail] All Mail"
Posted: Aug 28, 2008 1:45 AM   in response to: John Slaughter
 

The Gmail prefix works great but you do need to exit Mail and restart it to get the inbox back.

A

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