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Re: TC on an extended Airport Extreme network - not routing
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Jun 13, 2008 8:30 PM
in response to: NoBiscuit
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After 3 months from when I returned the TC, I bought an Airport Express and set it up to extend my network. I still have the original AEBS connected to the internet working fine as before.
But, still finding the same type of problems as before with the TC. The new AXBS (set to extend the n network) will only route to the internet if security is set to none. (Yes, I have Comcast and I can route through the AEBS to the internet but, only with security turned to none). So, this is deja vous all over again.
Has anybody got two AEBS's to work together (and route to the internet) in an extended network that is n?
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Re: TC on an extended Airport Extreme network - not routing
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Jun 13, 2008 8:48 PM
in response to: AuniMac
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AuniMac,
I appologize if I used the wrong abbreviations. I am running 2 Airport Extreme Base Stations (AXBS I guess that would be) on an extended N-only network, with WPA2 Personal and an ACL setup and all devices can see the internet.
As I am not using an Airport Express, I can't speak to that. Can the device attached to the Airport Express see the internal network when security is turned on (i.e. is internet access the only issue)?
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Re: TC on an extended Airport Extreme network - not routing
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Jun 13, 2008 8:59 PM
in response to: NoBiscuit
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Thanks.
Yes, that is what i was asking. I have an existing Airport Extreme (AEBS) and tried to add Airport Express in the same network as your setup and it won't route to the internet unless I disable security.
I'll try two Airport Extremes if it works for you.
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Re: TC on an extended Airport Extreme network - not routing
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Jun 15, 2008 11:53 AM
in response to: AuniMac
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And, by the way, I have come to believe that my problem may only have to do with the fact that when I try to use the 5GHz band the signals are too weak at this high frequency to travel the distances needed in my house to connect the two wireless access points together. As most know, the 5GHz signal has less effective radiating power than 2.4GHz. The 2.4 GHz signal, all things being equal, will travel further.<<<<<<<
Is this fact? I was told that my range would actually improve by going to a 5Ghz standard. After what I have been through, I'm not certain that I'm gaining anything for having done so. In fact, I may be losing. See my post at Gone and messed up a great, working set-up
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Re: TC on an extended Airport Extreme network - not routing
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Jun 15, 2008 3:06 PM
in response to: No staples please
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No Staples... Yes, there seems to be a misconception by some that 5Ghz travels farther but, it is simple not true. The higher the frequency the less effective radiating power.
I wanted to make a last post to this thread and state that I just got a second Extreme and bridged it to my existing Extreme. I now have an extended bridged n-network using two Extremes. It works perfectly and took about 3 minutes to set-up!
Thanks for all of the help everyone, all of the pieces of the puzzle that everyone adds help everyone else.
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Re: TC on an extended Airport Extreme network - not routing
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Jul 5, 2008 3:39 PM
in response to: dancogswell
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This problem seems to be fixed in firmware 7.3.2. Thank you, Apple engineers.
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Re: TC on an extended Airport Extreme network - not routing
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Jul 11, 2008 11:32 AM
in response to: KTeare
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""Has anybody got two AEBS's to work together (and route to the internet) in an extended network that is n? ""
I've done this in various different ways to determine the best approach. Below are the approaches and the pros and cons using 3 AEBS's and 1 TC.
a. I setup 1 AEBS as the gateway and enabled the option of allowing it to be extended. The internet gets connected on this AEBS which I will name AEBS1. I connected the other 2 AEBS and 1 TC by simply adding them to the network via extend a network. Everything works fine. Pro's - it's simple. Con's - TC backups are slower since all traffic has to hop thru AEBS1 to get to the TC. Another con, it seems the AEBS1 freezes since it has to do duty as a gateway, and a WAP router.
b. I setup AEBS1 as a gateway and turned off wireless. Connected TC hardwired to ABES1. I setup TC as a bridge and enabled it as the WAP master (owns the wiresless network name) and set TC up to allow it to be extended. Added the other 2 AEBS using extend a network. Pro's - backups are faster. Gateway does not freeze anymore. Cons - Although thru put is faster from the LAN to the WAN, there is a slight delay which creates the perception that this approach is slower. Basically what happens is the browser hangs for a few, then suddenly the whole site loads in one dump. It's like changing channels on an old rotary TV. Overall it's faster. I did CNET speed test and using option (a.) above i got 2000K transfers and using (b.) I got 3000K transfers. In (a.) above, web sites download incremetally and build as the data is down loaded.
What I'd like to try next, probally this wekend, is to setup AEBS1 as the gateway with wireless off. AEBS2 as the WAP master. Hard wire TC to AEBS2 with WAP off. And use the last AEBS to extend the network. This should give a gateway with a low load since it does not have to do WAP routing duty. Fast TC backups since TC will be hard wired to AEBS2. And a WAp master that has a low load since it does not have to do gateway duty.
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