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cusiter67

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Calling when overseas
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 11:26 AM
 

I travel a lot and change out my sim card so I can afford to stay in touch. Does anyone know if ATT have agreements overseas with any carriers that will allow you to do this?

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Dave Sawyer


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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 11:27 AM   in response to: cusiter67
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You cannot use another carrier's SIM card in an iPhone. You'll have to get set up for international roaming and use whatever roaming affiliates AT&T has set up.

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AymR


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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 11:28 AM   in response to: cusiter67
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You can't change your SIM card out, but you can do international roaming.

Click on Wireless Travel Guide to find out how much it will cost:

http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/international/roaming/international-roaming.jsp

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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 11:28 AM   in response to: cusiter67
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We have been told that the iPhone will work only with AT&T SIMs. No viable unlocking has been announced, so your answer is no.

   
Cenk

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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Jul 23, 2007 8:03 PM   in response to: cusiter67
 

Hi,

I did travel overseas and used my iPhone with no problem..errr... other than the AT&T bill... Carriers in other countries work smoothly with the iPhone.

If you want to use your iPhone and not pay a lot, buy the AT&T's international package.. It's $25 and gives you 20 MByte free... I did not know that and I will have to pay about 2 cents/kByte... I did use about 12 MBytes so it makes about $250 phone bill...

Calling or recieving calls and sending/recieving SMS also extra. Do not talk too much and do NOT text too much (sms might be blended with Datausage)...

But you will look cool using iPhone outside of US where knoone else can have an iPhone (yet)...

Cenk

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DarthGelo

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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Jul 23, 2007 10:55 PM   in response to: Cenk
 

On my previous GSM phones and traveling overseas, I would choos a network that interfaced with AT&T's network. I would also select whether or not to enable the GPRS capabilities. I don't know if EDGE is the same as GPRS or not. On the iPhone I could not find a setting to (1) disable Edge or (2) a menu for cellular network options.

Q1: When you traveled abroad did the iPhone select the network for you?
Q2: To prevent from getting raped by AT&T on the data charges how can you at least use the iPhone for voice international roaming without data use?

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Cenk

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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Jul 24, 2007 4:15 AM   in response to: DarthGelo
 

A1: iPhone selects the network automatically... But you can manually select if you want to use a particular network.

A2: Yes you can use the phone just for voice. Disable the automatic email checking and do not use email, safari, weather, etc... apps. They all use data service.

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DarthGelo

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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Jul 25, 2007 12:48 AM   in response to: Cenk
 

Cenk, thank you for A1 & A2. Please allow me to ask another...
Q3: When you researched the AT&T International Data Plan was there any mention of having to extend or commit to a 1 year agreement with the plan?
When we spoke to a AT&T rep we were told we would have to commit to a 1 year contract. We did not bother with any other questions or advice from that individual there after.

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Cenk

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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Jul 25, 2007 8:54 AM   in response to: DarthGelo
 

A3. I am not sure about that 1 yr agreement. All I know is AT&T is trying to milk people using their phones in another country. Try to find out wireless locations wherever you go and use your iPhone there. Make/receive calls when you really need to. If you follow that than you wouldn't pay too much. If you want to stay longer periods, then you may wanna do 1 yr agreement.

Cenk

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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Jul 27, 2007 6:14 PM   in response to: Cenk
 

All other plans state clearly when you need to sign a 1-year agreement, not this one:

International Data Global Plan for iPhone
For just an additional $24.99 per month, iPhone customers may add a Data Global Plan to their existing domestic data plan and receive 20MB of data usage in 29 countries, including Canada, China, Mexico and many additional countries in Europe/Asia. Overage rate is $.005/KB. Outside the 29 discounted countries, the data usage rate is $.0195/KB

But I was told by the CS agent that there is a 175$ termination fee and , yes, you need to sign for a full year. I guess 175$ is not that bad if you consider that a week worth of data transfer in Europe without any plan can cost you hundreds of dollars!

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Sailing Bill

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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Aug 8, 2007 12:07 AM   in response to: cusiter67
 

All main carriers do. If you have a SIM it works in Europe for example, but call you carrier to ensure the service you have allows you to make international calls. For some crazy reason US carriers do this. I guess they forget there is a world outside of the US. Kind of like the Bush administration...... :-)

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borett

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When in JAPAN!!!
Posted: Aug 8, 2007 10:50 AM   in response to: cusiter67
 

I'm in love w/the iPhone but disappointed about one thing. It doesn't work in Japan (yet?), even tho it might seem like it does.

I travel to Japan often and was excited to finally be able to roam there. ATT does offer roaming in Japan w/the Cingular 8525 and the Palm One Treo 750 (as well as a couple of cards), but I didn't iPhone in the list.
(http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/international/roaming/international-roaming.jsp?WT.svl=title)
but figured it could be they hadn't updated the list w/new iPhone yet. So, I called ATT customer service international and was told by their rep that "well, it should work." ("Should"?)

I did some research and it turns out that it doesn't. :-( It's not all Apple's fault tho. Japan's network (based on 3G, soon to be 4G) is far ahead of the US standard (2G). So, I'm holding out for iPhone 3G version to be released. (Steve Jobs, please hear my prayers.)

On a side note, I just got back (Aug 4, 2007) from Tokyo where I felt totally left out from the hoards of train commuters watching live TV and doing video chat from their mobiles. sigh

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Cvitanovich

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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Aug 8, 2007 1:03 PM   in response to: cusiter67
 

Hey guys, I've have my iPhone for a month now and spent two weeks in Northern Europre: Denmark, Germany, Estonia, Russia, Finland and Sweden. I used my phone there a couple of times to make calls and then turned it off. I did check email and text messages every 3 or 4 days, seriously THAT's all. I just received my first months AT&T bill which was $578.68. Be careful traveling out of the country with this phone.

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Jeff Jacques1

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Re: Calling when overseas
Posted: Aug 9, 2007 1:16 PM   in response to: Cvitanovich
 

Similar experience while in the Caribbean on vacation.
Activated voice/international roaming, never notified of data plan or cost and was unaware that the island I was on had Edge. Thought I was using the resort WiFi, but ran up a huge bill on data usage. Was able to dispute bill down by 65%, but still a large chunk of change.
Be careful, their data rates are high and they don't yet have an international dataplan for the iPhone.

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Incorrect
Posted: Aug 9, 2007 3:03 PM   in response to: Jeff Jacques1
 

Incorrect -- they DO have an international data plan for the iPhone.

It is 24.99 for 20 MB of data. They've had it since day 1. I've used it succesfully for two European trips with no weird charges.

They also have a 5.99 a month discounted international voice roaming plan. Highly recommended it will save you mucho bucks.

Finally, they also have international text messaging plans.

20 MB of data is roughly equivalent to 450.00 worth of charges.

It is also roughly equivalent to looking at 15 web sites, checking your e-mail manually twice per day, and checking a map and weather once a day.

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