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Les Caudle


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where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 8, 2008 12:18 PM
 

where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 8, 2008 12:33 PM   in response to: Les Caudle
 

Given that BTO Mac Pro has 5 week lead time with the 8800, I'd say nowhere for a while.

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 8, 2008 12:59 PM   in response to: Les Caudle
 

I bought mine today at the Portuguese online Apple Store for 320€ (roughly the same in US Dollars).
They gave it 8 business days to delivery. Expected to be delivered 22nd or 23rd this month.
It isn't showing in the US online store yet.

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 8, 2008 4:24 PM   in response to: Eureka 2
 

Eureka 2 wrote:
I bought mine today at the Portuguese online Apple Store for 320€ (roughly the same in US Dollars).
They gave it 8 business days to delivery. Expected to be delivered 22nd or 23rd this month.
It isn't showing in the US online store yet.

320 Euro is about 470 US Dollars. It hasn't been 1 to 1 in ages.

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 8, 2008 5:00 PM   in response to: Eureka 2
 

This new card is definately OK is it? what with the original mac pro being PCIe1 and this new card being PCIe2?

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 8, 2008 5:55 PM   in response to: alicanlondon
 

PCI-SIG announced the availability of the PCI Express Base 2.0 specification on 15 January 2007.[4] PCIe 2.0 doubles the bus standard's bandwidth from 2.5 Gbit/s to 5 Gbit/s, meaning a x32 connector can transfer data at up to 16 GB/s in each direction.

PCIe 2.0 is completely backwards compatible with PCIe v1.x. Graphic cards and motherboards designed for v2.0 will be able to work with v1.1 and v1.0, and vice versa.

The PCI-SIG also said PCIe 2.0 also features improvements to the point-to-point data transfer protocol and its software architecture.[5]

In June 2007 Intel released the specification of the P35 chipset which does not support PCIe 2.0 only PCIe 1.1.[6] Some people may be confused by the P35 block diagram[7] which states the Intel P35 has a PCIe x16 graphics link (8 GB/s) and 6 PCIe x1 links (500 MB/s each), for simple verification one can view the P965 block diagram which shows the same number of lanes and bandwidth but was released before PCIe 2.0 was finalized. Intel's first PCIe 2.0 capable chipset is the X38 and boards are already shipping from various vendors (Abit, Asus, Gigabyte) as of October 21, 2007.[8] AMD started supporting PCIe 2.0 with its RD700 chipset series. NVIDIA has revealed that the MCP72 will be their first PCIe 2.0 equipped chipset.[9]

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 8, 2008 5:57 PM   in response to: alicanlondon
 

alicanlondon wrote:
This new card is definately OK is it? what with the original mac pro being PCIe1 and this new card being PCIe2?

the new cards should be Backwards compatible.
PCIe2.0 cards are backwards compatible with most PCIe1.1 slots
aswel as:
PCIe2.0 slots are compatible to handle PCIe.1.1 cards (so in essence your not happy with the current card if you have an older card from your previous macpro you can slap it in there or vice-versa, not interested in your old MacPro graphics card, put the 2.0 in)

hope that helps!

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 8, 2008 6:02 PM   in response to: AppleNewton
 

By the way, the Mac Pro page on the US site now lists the two new graphics cards as upgrade kits, but the kits are not yet orderable.

NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT Graphics Upgrade Kit (MB137Z/A)

ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT Graphics Upgrade Kit (MB198Z/A)

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 8, 2008 9:28 PM   in response to: controller2k
 

Previous reports have shown that the 8800 is available for order from the UK and Portugal Stores online. It is also available from the Japan Apple Store as well with a 5-7 week lead time. At 42,800 yen, (393 USD) it probably won't be a cheap upgrade - maybe ~300 USD here in the States. No explicit indication of whether or not it is compatible with the quad core Xeon MPs, but in theory, it should work.

http://store.apple.com/0120-APPLE-1/WebObjects/japanstore?productLearnMore=MB137Z/A

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 9, 2008 5:45 AM   in response to: Shaggywerewolf
 

It is now on the US Store site for $350. I don't have the exact link; just look for "Mac Pro" and it'll be in the search.

"5-7 weeks" (!!!) to get it.

Indicates PCI 2.0 interface, but doesn't explicitly say if it will work in an older Mac Pro.

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 9, 2008 5:51 AM   in response to: controller2k
 

It's not a 1:1 rate conversion but, speaking of Apple is pretty close though.
For example:
Standard MacPro Configuration:
US Store: 2799$
PT Store: 2499€

We pay a lot of VAT (21%) here in Portugal so, I believe that the card will be around 250$ to 270$ (if in terms of the MacPro prices comparison)

Let's wait!

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 9, 2008 6:39 AM   in response to: Shaggywerewolf
 

Nice find

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 9, 2008 10:07 AM   in response to: JOROD
 

Perhaps this will help?

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=206216680&SearchEngine=PriceGrabber&SearchTerm=206216680&Type=PE&Category=Comp&dcaid=15890

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 9, 2008 10:32 AM   in response to: Northoak
 

Northoak - I believe that is a PC card. You'd have to reflash the BIOS and modify a power connector, and it might still have problems.

For the Mac version, Apple will most likely add a few hundred to the price, for exactly the same card.

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Re: where can I buy the new NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT for my existing Mac Pro?
Posted: Jan 9, 2008 11:18 AM   in response to: controller2k
 

Yup, $349 USD it is. $314 USD with the student discount. Now who wants to be the first to order one and see if it works in the last generation Mac Pro? :P

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