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BART TANDEM

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Automatic saving while you work
Posted: Jan 13, 2008 3:49 AM
 

Worked for yrs with MS Office and Open Office I was used to rely on a feature that automatically saved every 5 min a copy of the document I was editing, just in case the machine, OS or application would have a crash
I was very surprised that I couldn't find such a feature in Pages, I have gone throught the help files but could not find any information.
Okay maybe the mac os world is much stabler than what I was used to under MS OS's but still... any alternatives? Timemachine?
thx for any input
Cheers
Bart

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Wyodor


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Re: Automatic saving while you work
Posted: Jan 13, 2008 4:21 AM   in response to: BART TANDEM
 

You have to remember to save your document once in a while.

     
DennisG


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Re: Automatic saving while you work
Posted: Jan 13, 2008 7:26 AM   in response to: BART TANDEM
 

Bart,

Welcome to Apple discussions.

The lack of an auto-save feature is a much-discussed omission in Pages. Personally, I couldn't care less, since I've been a writer for many years, and have developed the habit of hitting cmd-S after every paragraph. I always tell people that if they value their data, they'll do the same, and not rely on an auto-save feature.

Still, some people seem to really want this feature. If you're one of them, you might want to send feedback to Apple.

-Dennis

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Magnus Lewan


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Re: Automatic saving while you work
Posted: Jan 13, 2008 9:32 AM   in response to: BART TANDEM
 

BART TANDEM wrote:
Okay maybe the mac os world is much stabler than what I was used to under MS OS's but still... any alternatives? Timemachine?

Even if Mac OS usually is much stabler than Windows, one should never trust any computer. If one types anything even remotely important one should press command-s repeatedly, just like Dennis advices. Timemachine only takes care of saved data, so it is useless, until you save the document.

Macs are in no way immune to crashes. Crashes may be rare, but they happen. Likewise, harddisk failures happen.

Repeatedly press command-s. Make frequent backups. Be happy.

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KOENIG Yvan


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Re: Automatic saving while you work
Posted: Jan 13, 2008 11:30 AM   in response to: Magnus Lewan
 

Hello

Tired to press cmd + S ?

to autosave iWork's documents
paste this script in the Script Editor

menu > File > Save As…
uncheck screen at startup
check stay in background
save this script as an application

Install it as one of the applications launched at boot_time from the Accounts PreferencePane (tab Login Items)

Every ten minutes, if Pages or Keynote is in use, the open documents (already saved once) would be saved.

if Numbers is in use, the frontmost document will be saved.
If I made no mistake, if the document was never saved the "Save" dialog will ask you to save it. (OK it works)

--SCRIPT autosave4iWork
property minutesBetweenSaves : 10

on idle
my auto4PK("Pages")
my auto4PK("Keynote")
my auto4Numbers()
return minutesBetweenSaves * 60
end idle

on auto4PK(theApp)
tell application "System Events" to set theAppIsRunning to (name of processes) contains "theApp"
if theAppIsRunning = true then
tell application theApp
repeat with aDoc in every document
if path of aDoc exists then
if modified of aDoc then save aDoc
end if
end repeat
end tell
end if
end auto4PK

on auto4Numbers()
set theApp to "Numbers"
tell application "System Events" to set theAppIsRunning to (name of processes) contains theApp
if theAppIsRunning = true then
tell application theApp to activate
tell application "System Events" to tell application process theApp to keystroke "s" using {command down}
end if
end auto4Numbers
--SCRIPT
 
Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE dimanche 13 janvier 2008 20:30:25)

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To be the AW6 successor, iWork MUST integrate a TRUE DB, not a list organizer !   Mac OS X (10.4.11)    

BART TANDEM

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Re: Automatic saving while you work
Posted: Jan 16, 2008 9:13 AM   in response to: KOENIG Yvan
 

Thanks for the Script Yvan
merci beaucoup!

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BART TANDEM

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Re: Automatic saving while you work
Posted: Jan 18, 2008 8:39 AM   in response to: KOENIG Yvan
 

I have installed the script as described
the only change is that every 10 mins I get a beep from my computer telling me that something is trying to execute but has a fault result. Is this script 10.5 compatible?
thx a ton
Bart

macBook Pro   Mac OS X (10.5.1)   4GB RAM  
KOENIG Yvan


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Re: Automatic saving while you work
Posted: Jan 18, 2008 1:33 PM   in response to: BART TANDEM
 

Hello

I built and tested it under 10.4.11.

I will try to test it under 10.5.1 tomorrow. ;-)

Maybe I will be forced to add some try/end try.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE vendredi 18 janvier 2008 22:32:38)

To be the AW6 successor, iWork MUST integrate a TRUE DB, not a list organizer !   Mac OS X (10.4.11)    
KOENIG Yvan


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Re: Automatic saving while you work
Posted: Jan 19, 2008 5:26 AM   in response to: KOENIG Yvan
 

Hello

I made tests under MacOS X 10.5.1 and didn’t get the described behaviour.

But I must say thank you because :

a - I discovered an anomaly disabling the autosave feature for Pages and Keynote.

b - I was able to enhance the autocode for Numbers portion.

I have an idea upon the behaviour you got :

May you look in the System Pref "Universal Access" that
the checkbox "Enable access for assistive devices" is checked.

I put two scripts on my iDisk

<http://idisk.mac.com/koenigyvan-Public?view=web>

The first one is an autosaver one for AppleWorks.
It get rid of the infamous bug responsible of data loss for users which renamed opened files  :

:Scripts_for_AppleWorks:autoSave_AW6.zip

Caution, trying to import AW6 spreadsheets containing dates force Numbers to quit under 10.5.1 (at least on the french OS).
the second one is related to iWork  :

:autoSave_iWork.zip
 
Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE samedi 19 janvier 2008 14:26:5)

To be the AW6 successor, iWork MUST integrate a TRUE DB, not a list organizer !   Mac OS X (10.4.11)