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Mar 18, 2008 9:54 AM
by: berdinkerdickle
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Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 21, 2008 4:33 PM
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No I do not have the issue.
My point is that there was good reason for removing the thread.
As you are not affected by the "ELP" issue it doesn't surprise me that you feel this way.
There were plenty of suggestions and various temporary fixes as well as info from those who have
had direct communication and/or attempted repair by apple on this issue, all of which could prove useful to someone new to the issue saving them some time and frustration if nothing else.
The "ELP" thread could have been pruned to include at the very least those posts that provided somewhat helpful info but to delete it all together with no fix or formal acknowledgment the issue even exists only serves to further frustrate those of us affected.
MBP C2D 2.33Ghz
Mac OS X (10.4.11)
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 21, 2008 6:35 PM
in response to: ru2b12
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Agreed with ru2b12. This is becoming outrageous.
frank
MacBookPro3,1 C2D 2.4 GHz, 2GB, 800 MHz
Mac OS X (10.4.10)
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 2:00 AM
in response to: ru2b12
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Ok, so the "bad" posts has been removed under some adept request...
can some one re post the pdf link to that previously removed thread and to petition?
People HAVE TO KNOW.
2000eur, 2000eur, 2000eur.......
Ibook 12'' 1.33ghz and MBP 15'' 2.2ghz
Mac OS X (10.4.10)
The MBP that often skips random letter swhen typing :(
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 4:23 AM
in response to: flapane
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http://www.petergabriel.dk/lockedthread.pdf
Apple continues to try and squash this.
We need help.
ken
MacBook Pro C2d 15 (s/N 8644; 2.33) 120Gig 5400
Mac OS X (10.5)
G5 Dual 2.5; Nano 3g; TV; iPod Classic 160
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 5:35 AM
in response to: ru2b12
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A partial list of Apple products I have purchased for myself and family:
Apple II 64K w/ 2 Apple disk drives & Apple monitor
Mac II
Laserwriter II NTX
Mac IICX w/ Apple 13" display for wife
Quadra 900
Apple DOS drive ($400-$500)
Mac G4 w/ Apple 21" display (with AppleCare)
Mac G5 dual 2.5GHz w/ Apple 30" (with AppleCare)
MacBook Pro CD given to wife (with AppleCare)
MacBook Pro C2d 2.33 mine (with AppleCare)
MacBook Pro C2d 2.33 given to daughter (with AppleCare)
Final Cut Studio for daughter
Snow base station
Extreme N base station
AirPort Express
iPhone 8Gb for daughter
iPod Mini (with AppleCare)
iPod Nano 2g (with AppleCare)
iPod Nano 3g (with AppleCare)
iPod Touch 16 (with AppleCare)
iPod Classic 160 (with AppleCare)
.mac subscription from the beginning
TV 40 (with AppleCare)
I think I've earned a small consideration to be upset with this issue and post a clandestine pdf link.
ken
MacBook Pro C2d 15 (s/N 8644; 2.33) 120Gig 5400
Mac OS X (10.5)
G5 Dual 2.5; Nano 2G; Nano 3g; TV; iPod Classic 160; 30" Cinema; Airport Extrem
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 8:09 AM
in response to: sgginc
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The deleted thread had tons of good troubleshooting data along with descriptions of interactions with AppleCare and their responses.
For those with this issue ... I will not relent.
Add the following to my Apple products:
Bluetooth Mighty Mouse
Bluetooth aluminum keyboard
Wired aluminum keyboard
Apple please help us 
ken
MacBook Pro C2d 15 (s/N 8644; 2.33) 120Gig 5400
Mac OS X (10.5)
G5 Dual 2.5; Nano 2G; Nano 3g; TV; iPod Classic 160; 30" Cinema; Airport Extrem
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 9:27 AM
in response to: sgginc
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Oh, and please spare me the terms of use lecture. I know.
I am normally a follower and not a troublemaker. I am a quiet individual.
Extraordinary situations sometimes require unique actions.
Add the following to my Apple purchases:
Tiger (retail)
Leopard (retail)
ken
MacBook Pro C2d 15 (s/N 8644; 2.33) 120Gig 5400
Mac OS X (10.5)
G5 Dual 2.5; Nano 2G; Nano 3g; TV; iPod Classic 160; 30" Cinema; Airport Extrem
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 9:33 AM
in response to: sgginc
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In fact I think we should stop this incredible fanatism, as I wrote weeks ago, many people in Italy says: it's your fault, you don't press well the keys, they are great, they are super, I'm gonna buy my iphone, my itv, my airport and so on...
That's why we don't have any consideration.
Ibook 12'' 1.33ghz and MBP 15'' 2.2ghz
Mac OS X (10.4.10)
The MBP that often skips random letter swhen typing :(
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 9:43 AM
in response to: flapane
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Apple almost always has done the right thing.
I used to work for Apple Customer Relations before they took it in house. We always did what was right by the customer. Always.
This is a tough bug to solve.
If they would just keep us in the loop I would be satisfied.
I have faith that Apple will do what is right in this case. They just need a gentle nudge.
ken
MacBook Pro C2d 15 (s/N 8644; 2.33) 120Gig 5400
Mac OS X (10.5)
G5 Dual 2.5; Nano 2G; Nano 3g; TV; iPod Classic 160; 30" Cinema; Airport Extrem
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 9:45 AM
in response to: sgginc
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The fact is that if you pay over 2000euros, you wouldn't be very gentle, after several months... it's tough but they have to find a solution, even change it with the newer Penryn model, if needed, it's their problem.
Ibook 12'' 1.33ghz and MBP 15'' 2.2ghz
Mac OS X (10.4.10)
The MBP that often skips random letter swhen typing :(
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 10:49 AM
in response to: sgginc
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Hello All. I spent 3 hours on the phone with an Applecare product specialist last Friday. He sent a report to engineering and got a quick response. According to him, Apple acknowledges the problem and will fix it in 10.5.2 or 10.5.3.
I looked through the list of bug fixes rumored to be in the 10.5.2, the rumored 400 MB software update rumored to be coming soon. I didn't see a fix for this problem listed, so I'm afraid we may have to wait for 10.5.3. That's not what I'd like to happen, but it is something.
I'm as upset as anyone. On the other hand, this is the first time I've bought and used Applecare and I'm amazed at how hard they try to do right by the customer. They replaced the logic board, mainly because I suggested it. (It didn't help.) And when I had a hardware problem and had to send it to Houston for repairs, I mailed the box at 3:30pm on a Wednesday and had the repaired computer back in my hands at 10:30am Friday.
By the way, I've tried most of the remedies suggested in the old thread, except dancing naked while holding the MacBook upside down. Turning "Delay until repeat" to Off in preferences helped noticeably, but didn't cure the problem.
So... I'm hoping for a fix in 10.5.2 but am afraid I'll have to wait for 10.5.3.
Maybe if we all cross our fingers...
Jim
MacBook Pro, iMac, Mac Mini
Mac OS X (10.5.1)
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 11:49 AM
in response to: Jim Delany
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Thanks for the update ... It makes me feel hopeful.
Can others report their AppleCare contacts and results?
Thanks ... Ken
MacBook Pro C2d 15 (s/N 8644; 2.33) 120Gig 5400
Mac OS X (10.5)
G5 Dual 2.5; Nano 2G; Nano 3g; TV; iPod Classic 160; 30" Cinema; Airport Extrem
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 1:51 PM
in response to: sgginc
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I reported in the other thread that, while talking to a product specialist regarding another problem, I mentioned the keyboard issue and he stated that he knew Leopard included a keyboard driver that did not work and that they were working on it.
20" G5 iMac 2.1 GHz 1.5GB RAM (10.4.6), 15" 2.2GHz MBP 2GB RAM (10.4.10)
LaCie d2 DVDRW, 2 LaCie ext HD, Wacom tablet
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Re: Re- Am I wrong or "The "ELP" Keyboard Problem is still here"
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Jan 22, 2008 1:52 PM
in response to: Barbara Daniels1
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No, the problem is present in Tiger.
Ibook 12'' 1.33ghz and MBP 15'' 2.2ghz
Mac OS X (10.4.10)
The MBP that often skips random letter swhen typing :(
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