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WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 4:17 PM
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Has anyone else had any issues connecting their 2nd gen iPod touch to a wireless network with WPA/PSK? I tried it unsecured and it worked, tried a password with no special characters, and then a password with only lowercase characters. Any one run into this? I haven't tried WEP yet but I don't really want to settle on that and didn't feel like entering hex into the iPod.
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 4:59 PM
in response to: Jason L
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Alright, I did that but still "Unable to join the network '*****'" I should also mention I tried resetting the network settings and that didn't take either.
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 6:23 PM
in response to: IXTenebrae
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I think I'm having the same problem with my new 16GB, 2nd generation iPod touch. My iPhone connects without any problem to my home WiFi station but not the new iPod touch. I've tried entering the password maybe six or eight times and still no go (says it is "Unable to join the network..."). I tried restarting the base station and power cycling the touch but that didn't work either. Then I tried re-configuring my iPhone (using the same settings as for the touch) and the iPhone connected on the first attempt. This is happening on a WPA/WPA2 protected network running on a Belkin Wireless G basestation).
However, earlier today I was able to connect on my first try to the WiFi at work (secured AirPort Extreme) and at a second, non-secured location just about one hour ago (before I came home). Seems like it may have something to do with an incompatibility with my basestation at home. However, this particular basestation has worked fine with my iPhone and an old PowerBook G4 since early this year.
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 6:41 PM
in response to: IXTenebrae
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A new addition... I put the effort into trying WEP. It works too. It just seems as if WPA is the culprit and it's just in 2.1.1.
Oh Apple deities, please hear us and bring a patch!
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 6:44 PM
in response to: Waymen
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Here is an update. I have several unsecured networks around me and I've found that I can connect to those without problem. Thus, this seems to have something to do with the WPA security and perhaps more specifically with the way the password is being handled. After I get the "Unable to join network..." error I can cancel out of the setup and then my hidden network shows up in the WiFi networks screen on the iPod touch as a secured network but when I try to connect I get the same error message.
I have a lot of wireless network signals here at home, two 802.11n 5GHz basestations, one 802.11g that I've used for my "g" devices (successfully with a PowerBook and iPhone). Then there are several neighbors who are running other "g" networks (both secured and unsecured). I guess it could be some type of interference problem that the new iPod touch can't handle with secured networks (but which the iPhone can).
Anyway, it does seem to have something to do with the WPA security. I should add that I'm also using a new iPod touch with the v2.1.1 firmware (as delivered right out of the box).
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 6:59 PM
in response to: Waymen
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WPA2/PSK works fine here.
WEP is useless-it was cracked years ago.
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 7:14 PM
in response to: Johnathan Burger
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Johnathan, what make and model of WiFi basestation are you using? Also, I assume that you have a new, 2nd-generation iPod touch. Note, however, that there have also been a few posts from people who have updated their 1st-generation iPod touch to the v2.1 firmware and they have also had WiFi problems.
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 7:15 PM
in response to: Johnathan Burger
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Hence my reluctance to use WEP. What's your setup? What kind of router are you using? Are you using numbers, upper and lower case, and special characters in your password? Are you using a 2nd Gen iPod Touch with the 2.1.1 firmware?
I'm using a D-Link wireless router myself. Unless there's some commonality between the Belkin and the D-Link, I can't see there being a router issue. I did just remember that my router is draft N and when I bumped it down to WEP, it disabled the N functionality. However, it worked unsecured with N and Weymen's is a G router. Shouldn't matter anyway as the router should be adapting to G when the device connects to it anyway.
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 7:16 PM
in response to: Waymen
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Waymen, is your iPhone 2.1?
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 7:19 PM
in response to: IXTenebrae
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It's a new, 2nd-generation iPod touch. Firmware v2.1.1.
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 7:21 PM
in response to: Waymen
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Sorry, I've been reading so many forums I'm mixing things up and thought I remembered you said you had an iPhone too. Nevermind.
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 7:33 PM
in response to: IXTenebrae
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I also have an iPhone running the v2.0.1 firmware but the iPhone is connecting just fine. It's only the iPod touch that is having problems with my WiFi/WPA network.
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 7:34 PM
in response to: IXTenebrae
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My "Classic" IT (a couple of months old) shows ver 2.1 as the current software. My IP 3G shows 2.0.2 as the current software. I thought these units used the same software in lock-step. According to the start of this thread, the IT 2G currently uses 2.1.1. Are all these different numbers correct?
The name of the new IT (2G) startled me before I read the review. I though the 2G might mean it supported Edge in addition to WiFi for a true roaming internet device with original IP protocol. Not up to IP 3G standards, but certainly livable (especially if the data costs were perhaps $10-$20 monthly.)
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Re: WPA on 2nd Gen 2.1.1
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Sep 10, 2008 8:21 PM
in response to: Macaby
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If you are using a third-party router, you should use the WPA key that is generated after you type in your passphrase on the router. If you type in "subscriptions" as your passphrase, a key will be generated that is usually 26 letters in length. It will be a combination of capital letters, lower case letters and numbers. It is a pain to type in correctly, especially since the Touch only gives you a brief second to see if you are typing the information in accurately.
Also, on your router, if you are using WPA you might want to change to TKIP; if you are using WPA2, you should use AES. If you do have a setting on your router that allows for both, then use that. Right now I am using AES with WPA2 from a Linksys N-Router and I can connect to my Touch.
If you have MAC address filtering enabled on your router, don't forget that you must enter the MAC address that is on your Touch into the router in order to get access.
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