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by: sbd76
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Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 18, 2008 9:08 AM
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After updating to 10.5.5, I have an identical font problem on two different machines: an iMac and a Macbook. The problem concerns font display on the screen and only occurs when viewing PDF files using Leopard's built-in facilities. So the problem shows up in Preview and in Safari, but not when viewing the same file in Adobe Acrobat. (There's also no problem with the same font in MS Word.)
The problem: Many italic characters in Times New Roman Italic display with (more or less) vertical strokes are rendered very thin. The result is a bizarre, distracting effect. The result is particularly noticeable with lowercase "o", but is widespread. I don't have the same problem with plain Times. It's possible other fonts have this too -- I haven't checked them all -- but most don't.
The problem appears to be related to anti-aliasing. When I turn this off in Preview, the display is of course not pretty, but the problem is otherwise entirely gone. (Times New Roman text and Times text now look basically the same.)
I've tried obvious things along the way: reinstalling the font from the system disk, flushing the font cache, etc. even reinstalling the 10.5.5 combo update. Nothing helps.
Any suggestions?
(Here is a PDF file on the web that has this problem for me -- in case you want to check whether you have it too: http://www.latrobe.edu.au/linguistics/LaTrobePapersinLinguistics/Vol%2009/07Popovic.pdf. Nothing special about this file, though. Any PDF in Times New Roman with italics has the problem for me.)
iMac, MacBook
Mac OS X (10.5.5)
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 7:22 AM
in response to: dpdpdp
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Try validating your fonts through font book.
Macbook
Mac OS X (10.5.5)
Macbook iPod Nano (3rd gen.) no sign of windows.
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 9:09 AM
in response to: dpdpdp
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Confirmed -- same problem
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Mac OS X (10.5.5)
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 9:14 AM
in response to: dpdpdp
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same problem here. I validated my fonts and I have a ton of small problems with system fonts. replacing them now. will see if that fixes the issue. I suggest you do the same.
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz
Mac OS X (10.5.4)
Mac Pro 2.66GHz, powerbook G4 1.5GHz
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 9:21 AM
in response to: I love my macbo...
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Yes, I tried that too, thanks. The font checks out fine. And to judge from the comments of others, I'm not the only one with this problem.
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 3:17 PM
in response to: dpdpdp
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dpdpdp et al . . .
Have you all checked for duplicates of the problem font???
If you do a "find" on Times New Roman Italic, how many show up???
And please, stay away from the System Fonts . . . Trust me, I know.
(Made a bunch of serious mistakes like that in the past.)
Check and let us know, OK, guys???
iMac Intel2 -1GB; Mac G4 17" FP, 1 GHz, 768 MB RAM, and Mac Mini upstairs
Mac OS X (10.5.1)
Cable I'net; LaCie Ext. HD
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 3:30 PM
in response to: ~Bee
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I checked and I got rid of all duplicates and resolved all fonts. also cleared font caches. only have one Times New Roman Italic on my system, i just checked. that document still displays incorrectly.
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 5:25 PM
in response to: V.K.
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V.K--
Which document,
and in what application?
Message was edited by: ~Bee
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 5:36 PM
in response to: ~Bee
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the one that the original poster has linked in his first post. the application is the same he used - Preview.app.
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz
Mac OS X (10.5.4)
Mac Pro 2.66GHz, powerbook G4 1.5GHz
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 5:50 PM
in response to: V.K.
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V.K. --
Boy, I'm hoping Kurt will come in here,
but the page linked shows up perfect on my iMac.
I have yet to update to 10.5.5. I'm at 10.5.4.
But for you guys, what the h*ll?
I'll be back after I update.
(Boy, if only the Powers That Be knew how much we go through being helpers on these boards, eh???
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 7:34 PM
in response to: ~Bee
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I have no duplicates -- and only one Times New Roman Italic in particular.
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 7:39 PM
in response to: ~Bee
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that document displays fine in Preview on my mac pro at work (it's on 10.5.4) but I really don't think it's because of 10.5.5. fairly sure it's a font issue.
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz
Mac OS X (10.5.4)
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 7:52 PM
in response to: V.K.
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V.K.
Updated now.
Whew!
That page shows fine in both Preview & Adobe PDF.
Sorry if I missed this, but are you seeing this anomaly on other sites, as well?
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Mac OS X (10.5.1)
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 7:56 PM
in response to: ~Bee
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I'm seeing it in every PDF document (including ones I create myself) that uses Times New Roman Italic -- so long as the document is being displayed in Preview or Safari. (Adobe Acrobat looks fine, as I mentioned earlier.)
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Re: Font display problem after updating to 10.5.5
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Sep 19, 2008 8:06 PM
in response to: dpdpdp
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Ok, dpdpdp --
Can you give us a link to one of the documents that is giving you headaches???
iMac Intel2 -1GB; Mac G4 17" FP, 1 GHz, 768 MB RAM, and Mac Mini upstairs
Mac OS X (10.5.1)
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