Topic : Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??

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niemandmail

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From: Cologne
Registered: Oct 15, 2008
Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 15, 2008 1:41 AM
 

Will there be an adapter to have this option? I think this is a vital option for both late 2008 Macbook and Macbook Pro!

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wildph

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Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 15, 2008 8:10 AM   in response to: niemandmail
 

Ditto,

A composite/S-Video output option is still essential, there are still a lot of sd tv sets out there, as well as projectors with only composite/s-video inputs. I must be able to connect to these.

Is is possible to attach two adapters in line?, if so, why not have a single adapter do it in one? I'm thinking Mini DisplayPort -> DVI, and then DVI -> S-video? What type of DVI does the new macbook/MBP output, is it DVI-A, DVI-D or DVI-I?

XW

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John Mccauley


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Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 15, 2008 9:19 AM   in response to: wildph
 

That's not very convenient, chaining adaptors. I have to assume it is just a matter of a combo s-vid/composite like I have for my old Powerbook. But it is really needed.

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Michael Seelye


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Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 15, 2008 9:39 AM   in response to: niemandmail
 

All I see is :

Video output options

DVI output using Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapter (optional)
VGA output using Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter (optional)
Dual-link DVI output using Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter (optional)

:-(

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Jiberoony

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From: South Coast UK
Registered: Aug 24, 2005
Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 15, 2008 11:31 AM   in response to: niemandmail
 

I will not be buying one of these awesome laptops until they supply composite out. I use macs for live visual production and VGA equipment is too expensive currently. I was hoping to buy a new MacBook and MacBook Pro, but I have to wait for this feature.

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CaptainMorales


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Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 16, 2008 4:38 AM   in response to: niemandmail
 

Count me in on those waiting for this adapter to reappear. It's pretty much essential for me, and for anyone who works with lots of older TV sets. The MacBooks just came out, so it's possible there's just a small wait for these to follow, but I'll be mighty concerned if they don't make a re-appearance soon.

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lakeshore


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From: NH
Registered: Aug 24, 2007
Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 16, 2008 5:16 AM   in response to: CaptainMorales
 

It's not just photographers and graphic artists who find a glossy screen intolerable. Macbook Pros and Cinema Displays are currently used heavily in medicine, where precision, color, and accuracy can sometimes mean the difference between life and death. These machines are used in brightly lit laps, where glare and especially reflection can obscure image detail. Now that Apple is moving to glassy screens across its entire "pro" (and I use that term loosely) line, Apple has just written off medical imaging applications for its machines.

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lakeshore


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Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 16, 2008 6:10 AM   in response to: lakeshore
 

Odd. This post of mine was supposed to go in another thread. No idea how it ended up here!

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FractalFreddie

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From: Sweden
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The glossy screen is better and leeds to less distortion in the image.
Posted: Oct 18, 2008 7:13 AM   in response to: lakeshore
 

The reason Apple has abandon the non glossy display is because the coating used to make the screen non glossy distorts the image from the display itself.

After a display is manufactured it is glossy per default. To make it non glossy a coating is applied that distort the light in a way that makes the screen appear non glossy. The problem with this it that the coating not only distort the reflections coming from outside but also the light coming from the screen itself making the image and the colors less accurate. This is absolute fact and people working with digital pictures will get a more accurate result because of this but will need a dark room or remove unnecessary light sources in you work place. If the distortion or slight blurriness the coating produces that reduce reflection is worth removing the annoyance of a higher degree of reflection is a question you have to decide for yourself.

I myself prefer the glossy non coated screen that produces sharper images and think that it´s worth the hassle of positioning my macbook and myself in a way that reduces reflective light sources, after all it is a portable computer and it is easy to move it to a place and position that is ideal. But everyone has right to their own opinion if apple did the right decision but if you didn´t know before why they abandoned the coated screens, now you know.

I do agree that the the extra glass they have put in front of the display in the new macbooks/pros leeds to unnecessary reflections and is only an unnecessary esthetic choice. This aside the underlaying glossy screen is simply a screen without an applied light distorting coating.

mvh FractalFreddie

ps. It should theoretical be possible to keep the anti reflection coating and still get the same sharpness as non coated screens by compensating for the light distortion produced. This could be done by destructive interference calculated either by the CPU, GPU or ideally by a separate circuit in order to reduce the system load of such advanced calculations.

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CaptainMorales


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Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 19, 2008 7:49 PM   in response to: niemandmail
 

Glossy screens may be an issue too, but what has this to do with composite video output? I still don't see an answer from Apple.

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elfprince13

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From: 127.0.0.1
Registered: Oct 20, 2008
Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 1:19 PM   in response to: niemandmail
 

have you (read: has anyone) tried a VGA-Composite/RCA/S-Video adapter in conjunction with the mini-DisplayPort-VGA adapter? I'm considering trying this, but I haven't bought the laptop yet, and I don't have the converter anyway. My current laptop (an old Toshiba) has an RCA out, which was really convenient. I'm hoping to hold off on actually buying any adapters until I've heard if anyone else has succesfully tried it. Hopefully everyone else isn't doing the same thing. Report back if you try it and it works.

   
niemandmail

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From: Cologne
Registered: Oct 15, 2008
Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 21, 2008 1:40 AM   in response to: elfprince13
 

As it seems:
In the new MBP Apple appearantly uses DisplayPort : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displayport . Display Port is all Digital. That in my view eliminates the possibility of a cheap passive composite/s-video connector from Apple or third party anytime soon.

Don't expect this adaptor - in my view it seems technically not possible.

Any comments?

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demolasko


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From: Columbus, OH
Registered: Oct 21, 2008
Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 21, 2008 2:12 PM   in response to: niemandmail
 

im sure everyone can find the cables needed at monoprice.com

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demolasko


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From: Columbus, OH
Registered: Oct 21, 2008
Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 21, 2008 2:24 PM   in response to: niemandmail
 

Video output options
DVI output using Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapter (optional)

VGA output using Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter (optional)

Dual-link DVI output using Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter (optional)

does that help?

   

niemandmail

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From: Cologne
Registered: Oct 15, 2008
Re: Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??
Posted: Oct 22, 2008 3:39 AM   in response to: demolasko
 

Unfortunately not. I still need a composite/s-video output option.

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