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Feb 13, 2006 3:47 AM
by: Jan Schouten
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Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Nov 29, 2005 10:01 PM
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I just imported 1369 photos from iPhoto ( a small portion of my total Library !) and now doing anything in Aperture is painfully slow !!!
Did I just waste $500 !!!! It's slower than iPhoto - I'm really ******.
I just selected all and tried to batch rate all pics to one star - it took 57 seconds !!
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Nov 29, 2005 10:10 PM
in response to: Scotsman
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I'm so ****** I forgot to say I'm using a Dual 2.5 Gig Powermac with 4.5gig RAM - this should be fast but every thing I do is slow slow SLOW !!!
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Nov 29, 2005 11:49 PM
in response to: Scotsman
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Unfortunately, I cannot answer your question specifically because I do not have the application yet.
However, even with a Power Mac, batch changing 1369 files is a lot. It has to open, change, and save every single file, and the fact it took 57 seconds to do 1369 files is good, to say the least. Imagine doing that on an iMac G5 with 1GB of RAM.
ouch :\
Nonetheless, try rebooting your machine and repairing permissions to start with. Also, even though I doubt this is the case, you weren't trying to batch change those files while you were importing them, right?
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Nov 29, 2005 11:54 PM
in response to: Scotsman
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Scotsman,
Have you tried applying metadata to 1369 images in Adobe CS2 Bridge? It takes a long time to write it out 1369 times.
I'm also on a dual 2.5 and have 2.5 GB ram. I imported 19,604 pictures into about 20 projects. That took a little while, but that's also over 60 GB of RAW files that needed to be read, copied, scanned, rendered, thumb-nailed, etc...
You also have to keep in mind that Aperture is doing things behind the scenes far beyond that which iPhoto does.
I have noticed Aperture delaying a few times, but when I think about what it's doing when it makes me wait, I realize there is usually disk io limitations.
*shrug* I'm not saying it's a speed king, it does make me wish I had a quad-core, but frankly I can't bring myself to complain about it when I think about what it is actually doing the behind the scenes. *of course, I'm a programmer, so I'm sensitive to that sort of thing*.
Devon
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Nov 30, 2005 3:26 AM
in response to: Scotsman
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Last night I imported about 8,000 photos (14GBs worth) and although it took over about an hour, Aperture appears to be very fast on my PowerMac listed below. I suspect batch changing of any significant magnitude could take a while as the metadata structure is extensive.
Sam
PowerMac Dual 2.5 G5 8GB RAM X800 - PowerBook 1.5 G4 2GB RAM
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Nov 30, 2005 5:34 AM
in response to: Scotsman
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I am confused about why updating Metadata takes so long. I tried to update the timezone setting for 200 pictures, took around an hour. Does Aperture create a version even for simple Metadata updates? That's the only explination I can come up with for why it takes so long: that it's making a copy of a 8MB raw file to make the changes on.
PowerMac G5 dual 2.5
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Nov 30, 2005 5:56 AM
in response to: Fordan
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Updating time-zone metadata on 200 files should not take an hour. Also, Aperture does not make a copy of the original master when creating versions so that's not your slow down. Watch your memory allocation when running Aperture tasks as you are at the minimum for Aperture and 1GB per CPU is not a lot.
Sam
PowerMac Dual 2.5 G5 8GB RAM X800 - PowerBook 1.5 G4 2GB RAM
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Nov 30, 2005 6:33 AM
in response to: Scotsman
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I'd be elated if I could batch-alter info on that many files in less than a minute. That strikes me as very impressive.
Try using the application some more for some different things.
Right now I am stuck with Nikon Capture 4.3.2 on a 1.2GHz G4. The only decent workaround for me is to use the plugin with Photoshop.
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Nov 30, 2005 8:29 AM
in response to: SamKva
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The minimum for Aperture is 1GB of RAM. 2GB is the recommended system. I'm not adverse to getting more RAM, but I'm not convinced it was the problem. I had Activity Monitor running while doing this... Aperture was pegging the CPUs, but I had around 800MB of inactive memory and some amount in free, which I would have expected to see in active if Aperture was memory-bound.
This is with a single Project in the Library consisting of a around 600 RAW images and 40 JPEGs, and working with the Batch Change command on at most 200 at a time.
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Nov 30, 2005 8:57 AM
in response to: Fordan
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Ooops, you are right on the minimum memory; sorry about that.
I now have about 8,000 photos in my library with several hundred being RAW files. I'll try some batch changes tonight.
Sam
PowerMac Dual 2.5 G5 8GB RAM X800 - PowerBook 1.5 G4 2GB RAM
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Nov 30, 2005 7:41 PM
in response to: Scotsman
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Well, it's not the blinding speed Apple would like to portray in their promos but it's still a fair bit faster than the other software available for some 'tasks'.
However, when I've tried to 'EXPORT' as an alternate file format (say converting master RAW files to JPEGS for email) it is incredibly slow (way slower than Photoshop, Nikon Capture etc) and you can't do anything else while this process is ongoing. Very lame!
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Dec 1, 2005 10:56 AM
in response to: Scotsman
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It seems that Apple has some major performance optimization work to do on Aperture.
I watched the demo of Aperture running on some majorly studly hardware (Quad G5 with 4.5GB RAM!!) at my local Apple store last night, and it was painfully slow. There were fewer than 100 photos imported into Aperture at the time. The guy just ran through Apple's canned demo, importing a dozen or so additional photos from the flash card, auto-stacking them, etc.
The machine was running dual 30" displays in mirrored mode connected to a GeForce 6600 graphics card. There was a noticeable delay (between 0.5 seconds to sometimes as much as 2-3 seconds!!) between the left and the right display being updated, ie you could see the updates on the left display first, and eventually the right display would catch up.
Based on other comments that Aperture seems to only use a single CPU (is it single-threaded!?!?), maybe there's some pathological scheduling going on in the multi-CPU machines...???
I'm really nervous about running this on my "whimpy" 1-year-old iMac G5 1.8GHz, but am hopeful that the fact that Aperture runs on a G4 PowerBook means that I'll be OK, if not blown away...
(Crossing my fingers.)
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Dec 1, 2005 12:28 PM
in response to: Lorenz Redlefsen
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I have it running on both my machines; it's great on the PMac and very acceptable on the PBook. The PMac now has about 10,000 photos loaded in.
Sam
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Dec 1, 2005 12:36 PM
in response to: SamKva
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The timezone change seems to be a killer. Doing a change of the name doesn't seem to be too bad, but when I tell it to add the right timezone, it seems to take forever. Did it on 10-15 photos at a time, took 5-10 minutes to complete. While it was crunching on that, there was free RAM, but the processor switched between around 50% on both CPUs to 100% on both CPUs, with Activity Monitor telling me often that Aperture was not responding.
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Re: Painfully Slow !!! What the Heck !
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Dec 1, 2005 1:46 PM
in response to: Fordan
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That's interesting. Also, I think you are the first one here to notice that both CPUs being taxed and that's a good thing.
Sam
PowerMac Dual 2.5 G5 8GB RAM X800 - PowerBook 1.5 G4 2GB RAM
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