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PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 9, 2006 7:51 PM
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My PowerBook has started going to sleep unexpectedly during use. Sometimes it will wake up instantly, sometimes it will take repeated pressing of keys before it will respond, and other times it will require me to unplug AC power and take out the battery to turn it off and back on again. I have no clue why it's doing this. Anyone have an idea?
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 9, 2006 8:20 PM
in response to: sheppardp
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Does your book feel abnormally hot? Typically, they run under a different power consumption scheme depending on whether it is plugged into AC or not. Possibly it may be shutting down as a protection from overheating.
Are you under warranty/AppleCare? Can you tell if your fans are working?
Joe
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 9, 2006 8:59 PM
in response to: sheppardp
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hi sheppardp--
i would try trashing a couple of files in /library/preferences/system configuration folder-- com.apple.powermanagement.plist and com.apple.autowake.plist and then restarting the computer. i would also reset the pmu. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449. let us know how that is going. [ 8 ) ]
emac
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 12, 2006 8:05 AM
in response to: sherry johnson
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Well, I don't appear to have a com.apple.powermanagement.plist or a com.apple.autowake.plist. I've been resetting the PMU when the computer refuses to wake from sleep as that's the only way to get it working again.
It has been feeling hot at times recently. I think the fans are working but that might be the source of the problem. I've been keeping it on AC power almost all the time because the battery has worn down and is practically useless. I've got a replacement battery on order. Would that fix the problem, you think?
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 12, 2006 9:17 AM
in response to: sheppardp
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When you get the new battery, make sure you calibrate it properly.
You can go to System Preferences and set your CPU Performance to reduced while under AC Adapter power, lower your screen brightness some, things that can cause it to run hotter, just to see if it helps.
Joe
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 12, 2006 4:59 PM
in response to: sheppardp
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you shouldn't have to reset the pmu all the time. those preference files should be there. did you have the system configuration folder in /library/preferences?? [ 8 ) ]
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 12, 2006 5:42 PM
in response to: sheppardp
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 The next time this happens open the Console utility and have a peek at your system log. More than likely the reason for your sleeping will be entered there. I do realise that going through a system log can give many people a headache although you more than likely will be able to find a trigger for it in there.
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 12, 2006 7:58 PM
in response to: sheppardp
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If your unit is 1.5/1.67GHz generation right before dual layer superdrive, you might want to bring it to nearest Apple store or service provider and ask them to run Apple Service Diagnostic and see if there is failed temperatur sensor in the trackpad area or not because in the past few months I've seen the problem like yours and found out that the temperature sensor in the trackpad is failed (giving wrong temp. info) which caused the unit to go to sleep because it thinks overheating.
Usually problem is fixed by replacing top case.
Hope this help.
Flippo
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 14, 2006 8:45 AM
in response to: sheppardp
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The past few times it's shut down the computer's temperature has been fine. It is a 1.67 GHz. I got it in August '05 so I think that was before the dual layer superdrive. I'll take a look at it next time I'm near an Apple store.
I checked the Console utility, but I really don't know what's going on in there. If anyone can see what's wrong in here I'd really appreciate it -
Mac OS X Version 10.4.7 (Build 8J135)
2006-07-14 11:34:21 -0400
2006-07-14 11:34:21.418 loginwindow[67] CFLog (0):
CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): plist parse failed; the data is not proper UTF-8. The file name for this data could be:
/Library/Managed Preferences/parkersheppard/loginwindow.plist
The parser will retry as in 10.2, but the problem should be corrected in the plist.
2006-07-14 11:34:21.572 loginwindow[67] CFLog (0):
CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): plist parse failed; the data is not proper UTF-8. The file name for this data could be:
/Library/Managed Preferences/parkersheppard/loginwindow.plist
The parser will retry as in 10.2, but the problem should be corrected in the plist.
2006-07-14 11:34:21.727 loginwindow[67] CFLog (0):
CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): plist parse failed; the data is not proper UTF-8. The file name for this data could be:
/Library/Managed Preferences/parkersheppard/loginwindow.plist
The parser will retry as in 10.2, but the problem should be corrected in the plist.
2006-07-14 11:34:23.055 Dashboard Starter[92] CFLog (0):
CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): plist parse failed; the data is not proper UTF-8. The file name for this data could be:
/Applications/Dashboard Starter.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib
The parser will retry as in 10.2, but the problem should be corrected in the plist.
2006-07-14 11:34:23.228 Dashboard Starter[92] CFLog (0):
CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): plist parse failed; the data is not proper UTF-8. The file name for this data could be:
/Applications/Dashboard Starter.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib
The parser will retry as in 10.2, but the problem should be corrected in the plist.
2006-07-14 11:34:23.383 Dashboard Starter[92] CFLog (0):
CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): plist parse failed; the data is not proper UTF-8. The file name for this data could be:
/Applications/Dashboard Starter.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib
The parser will retry as in 10.2, but the problem should be corrected in the plist.
2006-07-14 11:34:23.772 SystemUIServer[82] lang is:en
2006-07-14 11:34:49.231 DashboardClient[107] TDT in window
Jul 14 11:34:54 parker-sheppards-powerbook-g4-15 VersionCueCS2Daemon[232]: warning: VersionCueCS2Daemon not started by mach_init process (parent pid: 1)
2006-07-14 11:35:02.248 DashboardClient[109] com.andrethegiant.widget.gas: pole: false
2006-07-14 11:35:02.249 DashboardClient[109] com.andrethegiant.widget.gas: version: 2.99
2006-07-14 11:35:02.249 DashboardClient[109] com.andrethegiant.widget.gas: undef?: true
2006-07-14 11:35:02.249 DashboardClient[109] com.andrethegiant.widget.gas: undef?: true
2006-07-14 11:35:02.615 DashboardClient[109] com.andrethegiant.widget.gas: update?
2006-07-14 11:35:03.439 DashboardClient[109] com.andrethegiant.widget.gas:
<table width=100%'><tr><td align='center' class='errorText'>Version 2.99 is up to date.</td></tr></table>
2006-07-14 11:35:06.955 DashboardClient[109] com.andrethegiant.widget.gas: ******************************
2006-07-14 11:35:06.957 DashboardClient[109] com.andrethegiant.widget.gas: No price available.
2006-07-14 11:35:11.781 SecurityFixer[250] No insecure startup items found!
2006-07-14 11:35:25.570 DashboardClient[120] setSearchComboBox...
Powerbook G4
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 14, 2006 8:27 PM
in response to: sheppardp
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i'm assuming there is a problem with the widget listed. have you tried removing it? the plist mentioned, the loginwindow.plist, found in your user /library/preferences folder i would simply throw in the trash. this preference can cause a lot of problems. might be best to regenerate a new copy. [ 8 ) ]
emac
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 17, 2006 2:50 PM
in response to: Ned Snowing
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One thing I've been noticing in the logs is a string like this -
Jul 17 17:40:33 parker-sheppards-powerbook-g4-15 mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface en1 (192.168.2.2); delaying packets by 5 seconds
Jul 17 17:46:40 parker-sheppards-powerbook-g4-15 mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface lo0 (FE80:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001); delaying packets by 5 seconds
Jul 17 17:46:40 parker-sheppards-powerbook-g4-15 mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface en1 (192.168.2.2); delaying packets by 5 seconds
Jul 17 17:46:52 parker-sheppards-powerbook-g4-15 mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface lo0 (FE80:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001); delaying packets by 5 seconds
Jul 17 17:46:52 parker-sheppards-powerbook-g4-15 mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface en1 (192.168.2.2); delaying packets by 5 seconds
I think this might have something to do with it. Anyone know what it is?
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 17, 2006 2:57 PM
in response to: Flippo
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I called AppleCare today and they had me delete the com.apple.systempreferences.plist and com.apple.systemuiserver.plist files. It helped for a while but the problem still exists. One thing I have noticed is that it's more responsive to keys when asleep and a lot more responsive to closing and opening the computer. Sometimes it will wake from sleep when I close the screen, which is really werid. Perhaps its a problem with the sensor on the latch, so that it it thinks that the lid is closed when it's really open?
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 17, 2006 5:05 PM
in response to: sheppardp
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I have just run into this problem myself in the past few days. This is quite the unique problem we have on our hands. I still have Apple Care for about another month, as I bought it in August last year. Do you recommend just taking it in to my Apple Store? What will the be able to do for me? If the problem is not occuring right at that moment will they still be able to locate the problem?
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Re: PowerBook Goes to Sleep During Use
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Jul 18, 2006 2:16 AM
in response to: povitch
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My Powerbook G4 15-inch Aluminum started to go narcoleptic on me since Sunday afternoon (16th July, two days now). I found out with my Google cruisade, that
- in essence, the problem is a defective trackpad-mounted temperature sensor (which is there for: spilled coffee? ..) and which will switch the machine off immediately after sensing - or wrongly sensing - hot temperatures;
- my computer displays an average "trackpad temperature" over the last couple of days of 7.5 deg C, but of 0.0 deg C only since the moment I noticed it to go narcoleptic - which points to there being an effectively defective temperature sensor (i.e., hardware problem);
- apparently, mechanical strain on the trackpad / wrist resting area can trigger this problem (and I had only used my laptop for heavy text editing since a couple of weeks, nice weather - whereas otherwise, I'd edit on the desktop computer using a 'real keyboard'); so any replacement wouldn't get rid of the prone-ness to re-break under similar strain;
- most sensibly, one would turn off the usage of this particular, defective sensor by software, and it'd be sweet if Apple had built in a system preferences part that said "switch off broken temperature sensors", but they didn't - instead you can get your logic board and top case part replace if you're up to it;
- so I followed the tips given in this thread:
http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-52283.html
(poster Dreamingness has a series of commands that removes the trackpad control parts from the respective OS X folders),
- after restart, my Powerbook G4 was reliably not narcoleptic any more; however, other trackpad-related switches didn't work either, foremost the trackpad itself (using external mouse anyway), but also some functions related to sleeping and waking up;
- when I would now run the program Temperature Sensor, I could see that the trackpad temperature was displayed as "0.0 deg C" for the most part, and as soon as I would touch it - or just slightly compress it -, it would spike up to phantasy numbers such as "120 deg C" which I think would normally trigger the narcolepsy;
- ideally, someone could point out how to disable the hardware of that sensor? what cable to clip? which bit to pull out? - or Apple would allow software-switching of single defective sensors in an attempt to keep the community happy by releasing a little System Preferences pane that'd help us out here?
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