Syspolicyd making apps very slow to open on M1 Max

I’ve found a solution. Just reinstall the apps that are slowing down, and let them verify again. For me Adobe Apps were the biggest issue since they are pretty large in size. Note some apps such as MS Office, Cinebench, Davinci Resolve will still be hit by syspolicyd no matter how many times u reinstall them, and they don’t show verifying bar when opening for the first time either. (No verifying bar, issue persists) and side note syspolicyd doesn’t seem to hit on built in apps so they are non issue.

I have had this problem on and off for 2 years. I did just use the "erase all content and settings" function in system settings, then restored from a current time machine i made today, I restored everything including the apps and now the problem is gone. Will check if any current apps trigger the issue.

I don't think it's Sonoma doing it. I've only ever been on Ventura and I have the issue as well. NOR have I ever turned off SIP or fiddled with ANY commands at all in recovery, so that theory is out the window, unless it's just one of many things that may trigger the issue.

I've also noticed that sometimes the issue goes away for a while. When it does, I can reboot and still have fast app starts. But the issue seems to always come back and I have no idea what is triggering it to do so. Nor do I know what is triggering it to go away again.

If anyone knows anything more about this: PLEASE POST! Some apps take so **** long to launch. Affinity photo being the worst, which is probably why this has been talked about for this app in particular. But it's not the only one. Final cut pro takes like 7-8 seconds to launch which may not be enough to make a lot of people notice, but it's still a lot slower than it should be. This is likely a widespread issue.

Applications on a M1/ M2 / M3 with SIP Enabled causes a Lag Time to Launching

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Once that is done

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Are you Developing applications and if some, they need to be notarizes

There is no need to always run the computer with SIP Enabled

If it were, IMO Apple would not have implemented this Security Feature to protect the Operating System

Below is an M2 running Sonoma 14.2.1 with SIP Enabled

ALL applications run as expected and no lag

" System Integrity Protection (SIP) in macOS protects the entire system by preventing the execution of unauthorized code.

The system automatically authorizes apps that the user downloads from the App Store.

The system also authorizes apps that a developer notarizes and distributes directly to users. The system prevents the launching of all other apps by default.

During development, it may be necessary for you to disable SIP temporarily to install and test your code.

You don’t need to disable SIP to run and debug apps from Xcode, but you might need to disable it to install system extensions, such as DriverKit drivers. "

If you are going to quote something, please provide a citation.

I tracked down the original post from here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/launching-apps-slower-on-m1-mac-mini-than-intel.2270579/post-29663345

There is no way to tell whether or not that post is correct, or has anything to do with your problem. It sounds correct. I like this part: "if you fiddled with SIP or Recovery terminal commands (still has to be determined which ones) - this syspolicyd bug is triggered and will persist until you reinstall/update the OS." I would definitely agree with that. It says that disabling SIP is the cause of this problem, not the solution.

For the solution, I would also agree with this part: "To only solution to this - that I am aware of is reinstall."

I would add to that with, when you reinstall, make sure to restore only your user accounts and user files. Do not restore any apps, software, system settings, or "other files". Manually reinstall only the apps that you really, positively need. Be very suspicious of any app that includes an installer and/or requires your admin password to install.

Yes that’s not very practical for alot of apps tho. But I wonder if there is some command line to re verify all apps without reinstalling any of them. Since this bug is triggered by not recognizing or system not seeing apple notarization certificates of the apps. Should that kind of command line exists, we could just use it as a workaround for now until apple solves this bug.

miguelbfrom wrote:

so I just clean installed everything a week ago and everything was fine, until today the Sonoma 14.3 update did the job to put syspolicyd making the apps very slow to launch again!

I'm sure the 14.3.1 update will fix it. 😄

Bought my first MacBook 2 weeks ago a was shocked how slow it was, I did everything, at last I had to format, back to Ventura, no issue at all, when u update to sonoma the bug appear, only fix for now is disabling SIP