So I have a 2nd gen. Ipod touch. No apps work at all because I need IOS 4.3 I guess. I click on an app and it doesn't even try to open. And if I delete it and try to re-download it, it says I need to upgrade. Is there anyway to upgrade my old Ipod?

Phenomenal response, Matt. As a consumer who just purchased a 2nd gen iPod Touch (more for novelty than anything else, and it was super cheap), I found myself initially getting discouraged because there were no apps in the App Store for it. At one point I thought, "Well, this thing is pretty much a paperweight." Then I laughed at myself.

I was browsing the Internet, listening to music, and reading books on a crisp, bright touchscreen! Why was I complaining?

I can understand being upset about being forced to buy new hardware, but think about what you're getting if you do. Most newer apps (that don't support iOS 4.2.1) utilize retina displays, cameras, accelerometers and other hardware features that don't even exist in the iPod 2nd gen (or iPhone 3GS for that matter). If you want those apps and those features, you'd have to upgrade your hardware regardless of whether your device is Apple, Samsung, HTC, Microsoft, or whatever.

Either upgrade and enjoy, or be happy with what you've got.

I guess I don't get it because I also have an ipod 4.2.1 but it was completely reset. I can not seem to get any apps to install on it.
Where do I find apps that will run on this Ipod?

I see postings about reading books on it, but I can't seem to be able to find a way to even do that because it keeps saying that my OS isn't supporting the ereader... So far, I've only been able to put music on it, and some photos from iphoto.. other then that, how are you guys reading books on this and where are the thousands of apps it will still run? I'm thinking there is maybe an old app section somewhere I can download these?

I can't even look at facebook for some reason.

I think the problem is, you can all sit around and say "upgrade! get with the times lady..." but there are many people like me, who simple do not have the funds.

I was delighted to be given an older ipod touch, something I could never buy myself, but now I'm listening to only music on it, just like the old ipod shuffle I had.

Not everyone can afford these types of things and even if I could get a new ipod, I could not just turn around and get one in the next 3 years after that.. and who knows how fast the next one will be out of date... the life span should last more for the original cost.

If this were a game console, I'd be very upset. We've had our XboX for a few years now.. Heck, I still play my old Game cube and can still get used games for it.... it's just sad I guess.

I guess I'm missing something.

Good news, 'if' you have backed up your computer using time machine.

There is a short you tube video which show how to go into time machine which shows how to go into time

machine to recover versions of the apps which worked prior to being upgraded to versions which are

imcompatible with IOS 4.2.1. I have successfully recovered iBooks as well as a few others.

How to recover an old version of an app

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWwLwPusmXk

Is this getting into a discussion? 2nd Gen can only go to 4.2.1. If you want a newer version for all the apps and stuff, get a new (or better) one. Simple as that. I understand that you're upset, but the 2nd gen is a old product introduced in September of 2008.

Does anyone know of any applications that support iOS 3.1.3, I have a iPod Touch 1st generation.

this will really help. big time. See apps that are compatible to iOS 3..... even iOS 2. Yes......

I know this is an old post but I can't help myself 🙂

I can't agree with your statement "your ipod does everything it was advertised to do".

The thing is, I have a second gen ipod, and I want to run an app on it (in this case amplitude) and I know that there is a version of that software that will run on it, but there is no way for me to get hold of it.

This is not entirely the developer's fault. They obviously will want to update their app to use the new capabilities of the newer platforms (ios 5 etc), but they can't offer the old version through the apple store.

I know of no other platform than ipod/ipad/iphone that works like this.

My ipod 2 gen literally has less capability now than it did two years ago, because apps that worked on it then are now unavailable.

If it was a PC or Mac or andriod, chances are older versions of software would still be available.

REMEMBER TO TRANSFER PURCHASES FROM YOUR IPHONE/ITOUCH TO ITUNES 🙂

I can't help myself either. Let me tell you my story and see how you can defend. The chase app. One day it was working, the next day it said. "Chase app requires firmware 4.3 to work. You must update. it ouch 1,2gen and iPhone 3G and below are SOL, sorry. So how do the iPod "specs" effect this decision. Chase app worked one day, didn't the next. That is BS, ok fine no biggy. I still have an itouch 4 so I didn't really bother me. But what about the ppl who don't have one. Why should they be denied. Another scenario, I gave my itouch 2g to my brother after I got my 4. I had a lot of apps on it that worked, even Netflix. But since I have an itouch 4, I have been updating my apps. Well when I tried to sync the old iPod, Netflix no longer would copy. Saying the firmware is out of date. So now the itouch that once supported Netflix no longer has the specs to so so? BS. We can all see what is going on here. Force able upgrade. U don't see how itouch 2g can't handle 4.3.3 so it can be more useful. It is still in the same 4.0 family. I'm sure it can handle it. I mean it could handle the jump from 3.0 to 4.0. I was lucky enough to have my work computer with my account. I really didn't transfer purchases to that computer, so some of the updates did not take effect and was able to get some apps, and they work. For god sakes, apple was trying to deny me temple run. Temple freaking run. The version at home was to updates for the iPod 2g, but the one at work was able to sync and it worked!!. Defend and explain that. Apple, you are truly monsters, but you make a fine MP3 player. My point is you shouldn't have to be "lucky" to use your device at its full potential. Like the ppl above said, computers don't operate that way. At the very least your device should be stuck in a time correct, where it is stuck in time working the way it did when it was supported. Granted I do understand why 2g doesn't get ISO 5 or newer apps because it is too out dated to run it properly. I do get that. My itouch 4 is succumbing to that fate. Newer apps games are sluggish or unplayable.

Is there something you can't do with the Chase mobile website? Your iPod doesn't have a camera, so you couldn't use it to deposit checks anyway.

Again: Chase and Netflix are responsible for the firmware requirements, not Apple. It's not a question of "it worked one day and not the next." The reason is that those companies decided they wanted their apps to be updated. Why, you ask? So that they will run better on newer devices. And while that may seem unfair, look at it from a business standpoint. Most people upgrade their hardware whenever possible. It's safe to assume that most iPod Touch users today are using at least a 4th gen. These companies want to obtain the largest population possible, and the best way to do so is to appeal to the newer devices.

And no offense, but I literally laughed out loud when I read your statement about Apple denying you Temple Run. That app is not an Apple product. The company that develops are the ones "denying" it to you, to put it in your own words.

And yes, computers do operate the exact same way, although I'll give you, it's less noticeable. For example, some programs for Windows may be developed using the .NET Framework version 4.0. Guess what? That version of .NET is not supported on Windows XP or lower. Similar situations arise with most video games for Windows. They will require a certain version of Direct X to run, and if you don't have an up-to-date OS, you can't play said games. And do you think a Dell computer purchased in the early 2000's can run even Windows Vista? Don't be silly, that's not gonna happen. You can probably make it happen, but you will regret it.

Again, I'm not trying to defend Apple for the sake of it, I'm merely trying to clear up some of the misconceptions regarding iOS requirements. And while it is reasonable for you to jump to blaming Apple immediately, you should consider what is actually going on, and why things are the way they are.

My statements were of course outlandish on purpose. I mean I know apple isn't denying me temple one. The point I am trying to make and you failed to see is that you should be able to get old versions if apps that work with the device. Sure I can't use chase app to its fullest on an iPod 2g, but I was able to. And what of the ppl with iPhone 3G that do have cameras and could no longer use chase app because they are not on 4.3. I'm just saying, don't cripple the device

I am in complete agreement but even though you are whistling a lovely tune, I am afraid you are whistling in the wind.

These "Product Cycle" techniques are a part of Apple's Business Plan.

The "rules" governing the app store have no loopholes.

I would like to use the apps which were working for me before, but essentially my device has bern killed remotely.

You can't "go back to happier times" with v. 1.3 now that v. 2.1 is the ONLY available version in the ONLY available (official) source for apps.

Developers are not permitted to offer previous versions.

Apple's Business Plan is complex.

You have found one tip of one iceberg.

Turning back your clock with Apple's Time Machine backup might take you to happier times... IF you bought into that ecosystem.

A lot of people are resenting getting burned, but a lot more people just keep buying the "new" stuff.

basically, my main gripe is that i know how computers work, and i know when doors are being closed on you. we all know what the device is capable of and we know it is being impeaded from working at it's full potential. anyone who doesnt see taht is either is not tech savey, or in denial. but a computer/flash memory can be written and the versions of the apps that actually work on the ipod touch 2g are still out there, existing in physical data form. it didnt just vanish. so i am not buying the whole, "the device is too old" argument. i used chase and netflix and temple run as examples because those are the apps i encountered this problem with. i remember i msg from the chase app saying that i needed to upgrade and ipod/iphone 1,2,3g users are SOL basically. the message said "you will no longer be able to use the chase app". Oviously a message like that will make you ask "why? it was working yesterday with no issues" same thing with netflix, i remeber using it fine on my 2g. so theroritically, shouldnt i still be able too. same thign with temple run. i was lucky to have an old version in my itunes. but like i said earlier, you should always have access to it and not have to be "lucky". but really, this argument is moot because i doubt most ppl are rocking these old devices. the newer ones are better and you will want to upgrade anyway. i am simply arguing for the ppl who dont have the funds to upgrade and are still rocking iphone 3Gs or older ipods. ****, i have an itouch 4 and i want the 5 just to run the newer apps. none of the new stuff runs on my 4 anymore.

Hey Matt!

Next time please read more and be intelligent before you make outrages comments. So one day all developers woke up and simultaneously decided not to support devices that doesnt run 4.3? Your comment is not smart. even for an apple fanboy.

Apple released a new Xcode toolset 4.5 for developers. With this new Xcode the requirement is to have ios 4.3. Basically apple's Development Toolset stopped supporting devices older than ios 4.3.

So developers have 2 option. Either use old Xcode to write apps that cant utilize ios 5 and ios6 functions well or use newer Xcode to support newer ios versions better. This is forced on developers. Apple could make an Xcode that includes older versions.

So stop blaming it on developers.

"You are seeing the power of the market here because there is not enough demand to support the old products. So they are being dropped by both Apple and the developers."

No what you will most defiantly see, are less consumers of apple hardware. Since Steve Jobs death apple has been going downhill. Agreed you cannot use Windows program from the early 2000's, but all I truly want is to at least be able to use software that is only a couple of years old. Why should a person spend literally hundreds of dollars on an iphone, when only after a couple of years have passed., it is most likely to become too old? Obsolete not because the battery dies, the hardware fails, or the item breaks, but instead because the software isn't compatible anymore. Apple shouldn't make the new versions, of software compatible wt the old devices. All I'm saying is allow small companies, like CNET offer up these apps for free, or allow itunes users to download the older apps at a reduced cost. I mean if the older mac products are so much more inferior, then the new ones, why not allow this to occur. It's simply a sneaky kind of planned obsolescence.