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Am I due compensation? Apple Watch Skin Burn.

I bought an Apple Watch on the 1st Jan. After charging the watch, I wore it for around 24h. When I took it off I noticed that my skin was burnt (1st Degree Burn) a minor burn under watch sensors. Since contacting Apple, the case was escalated to a Senior IOS person and Apple Engineers whom asked for pictures 3 days later from original contact made on the 2nd of Jan. 8 Days later they asked for more images of me wearing the watch and not. It then took 8 days for a response from the Senior IOS person who was waiting for the Apple Engineers to respond. The result from the Senior IOS person was to read a web link on Apple on how to own an Apple Watch. Throughout all contact with Apple, they suggested I get my money back before the cut-off point.


Fast Forward to Today 19/01/16 I took the Apple Watch back to the Curry's Store I bought it from to get my cash back. Spoke to the returns desk manager and he asked why and what reason I wanted to return the Apple Watch, I told him my life story with the Apple Watch and he asked to see the burn mark that occurred between the 1st and 2nd of January and I complied, His response was, omg that's right under the Apple Watch Sensor, are you sure it's not a skin irritation. I then responded by showing him my other wrist that had also worn the Apple Watch that has no markings, skin irritations or burn marks, I also showed him how I wear the watch (correctly) and that I kept it clean. He then agreed that the Apple Watch would have caused the issue of burning my wrist and so Agreed to refund me my money. He was astonished as to what and how Apple customer service responded to my issue. I got my money back, cash. However the inconvenience of all this has cost me time, effort, cash, travel and I got a 1st degree burn and overall disappointment. Am I due compensation.


It is important to note that I have had no skin irritations from the watch other than the burn, I have held the watch with both hands, rubbed the watch on my arms, face and legs to see if a reaction occurs and worn it on both wrists with no further problems. Apple Watch Space Grey 42mm Sports Band.


J.

Posted on Jan 19, 2016 2:47 PM

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Posted on Jan 27, 2016 1:38 PM

Located in the UK, no freckles on my skin anywhere on the body dark black hair and tan skin tone, made it to the age of 24 with no allergies, no hay fever or even the dreaded chicken pox. I am almost certain that I have no allergies to anything that everyone has come in to contact with, I own pretty much every apple device possible, mac pro retina, mac pro, iPhone 3, 4 ,5 5s and 6s and all the iPods and no real problems bar the Mac Pro Retina had a defect - Apple resolved that issue fast. Getting back to the watch, I wore it on both wrist as requested by Apple, no reactions, skin irritations bar further problems on the other wrist, they then understood that if I were to get a skin irritation it would appear on my skin elsewhere. It was a 1st degree burn, I have 1st Honours, but not in medicine and let alone you don't need one to identify a burn, even visited mother and her years of experience identified it as a burn, could be chemical or heat burn. Getting back to my problem, after charging it from out the box on the table, I wore it for around 24h's straight, even during sleep. If i had a burning sensation during sleep, I probably missed it. Google 1st Degree Burns and you'll learn that a min of 44' can burn skin in temperature and or chemicals can burn skin. The watch was hot after it's 1st charge but as the same as the iPhones and Mac's I guessed it would be fine one it cooled, to which point I wore it.


End - Got money back, the manager of Curry's is taking it further as I wasn't the 1st customer in that week to bring an Apple Watch back that was in the NYE sale. He recently got back to me via e-mail saying the returned watch's are being returned to Apple's specialist dept. to test and what not. Even today 27th Jan, 27 days later there is still a little scar from the burn mark. Skin irritations usually don't scar and disappear after a few days. I am disappointed about my experience from the Apple Watch, wouldn't really recommend it as there are many others on Social Networks, Social Websites that are reporting the same issue with visually similar pictures and burn marks in the same areas. Not the wrist strap but under the watch face. My case was elevated with Apple from first contact and they last told me they are reviewing the case and will confirm if any compensation is due from a defect in the watch. End of the day, in the UK if you buy an electrical product no matter what and there is a defect or problem with the product that causes any problems, you get your money back and compensation. Not sure on circumstances with the USA.

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Jan 27, 2016 1:38 PM in response to ChrisJ4203

Located in the UK, no freckles on my skin anywhere on the body dark black hair and tan skin tone, made it to the age of 24 with no allergies, no hay fever or even the dreaded chicken pox. I am almost certain that I have no allergies to anything that everyone has come in to contact with, I own pretty much every apple device possible, mac pro retina, mac pro, iPhone 3, 4 ,5 5s and 6s and all the iPods and no real problems bar the Mac Pro Retina had a defect - Apple resolved that issue fast. Getting back to the watch, I wore it on both wrist as requested by Apple, no reactions, skin irritations bar further problems on the other wrist, they then understood that if I were to get a skin irritation it would appear on my skin elsewhere. It was a 1st degree burn, I have 1st Honours, but not in medicine and let alone you don't need one to identify a burn, even visited mother and her years of experience identified it as a burn, could be chemical or heat burn. Getting back to my problem, after charging it from out the box on the table, I wore it for around 24h's straight, even during sleep. If i had a burning sensation during sleep, I probably missed it. Google 1st Degree Burns and you'll learn that a min of 44' can burn skin in temperature and or chemicals can burn skin. The watch was hot after it's 1st charge but as the same as the iPhones and Mac's I guessed it would be fine one it cooled, to which point I wore it.


End - Got money back, the manager of Curry's is taking it further as I wasn't the 1st customer in that week to bring an Apple Watch back that was in the NYE sale. He recently got back to me via e-mail saying the returned watch's are being returned to Apple's specialist dept. to test and what not. Even today 27th Jan, 27 days later there is still a little scar from the burn mark. Skin irritations usually don't scar and disappear after a few days. I am disappointed about my experience from the Apple Watch, wouldn't really recommend it as there are many others on Social Networks, Social Websites that are reporting the same issue with visually similar pictures and burn marks in the same areas. Not the wrist strap but under the watch face. My case was elevated with Apple from first contact and they last told me they are reviewing the case and will confirm if any compensation is due from a defect in the watch. End of the day, in the UK if you buy an electrical product no matter what and there is a defect or problem with the product that causes any problems, you get your money back and compensation. Not sure on circumstances with the USA.

Feb 4, 2016 2:38 AM in response to Jonathan UK

I Have the same issue and after a lengthy investigation by myself I have figured out what is causing the issue which I have now highlted with Apple tech via a phone call as I wanted the issue resolved but love my watch too much to have it sent away for 10 days for their own investigation....



the the cause is this, if you check your heart rate on the watch and look closely before the app begins to read your heart rate it will always say that it had previously checked your heart rate only a few minutes earlier without anyone actually opening the app itself unlike in the Samsung fit watches which only check when activated so I asked the iOS tech over the phone how many times a day would the watch automatically check this and her honest answer was I do not know but what you are saying makes a lot of sense...



long long story short I think it's the heart rate monitor that's causing the issue as it's constantly on from what I have noticed and the overuse of this app without you even realising its on causes your wrist to heat up from the sensors at the base of the watch


so this is a software issue Apple needs to rectify immediately and it's a simple fix as well


Apple please investigate the heart rate monitor setting as I know I'm correct and by the way for the doubters out there I'm an electronics engineer for over 20 years and no I did not open the watch to investigate it further as from what I can see it's clearly a simple software issue that's needs to be updated so the heart rate monitor for not come on as much as needed, also this won't burn everyone's skin for the simple reason all people's skin is different and some are lets say tougher skin need than others love l to just put it plainly so Apple please in the Apple Watch 2 rectify this issue and I'll be 1st in le to purchase it when it's released in my opinion it's the best watch on the market currently

thats just my 2 cents worth but it does make a lot of sense.



opinions on what I have said of course I'm open to discussion.

Jan 29, 2016 6:01 AM in response to ukjames

ukjames wrote:


I wore the watch on the other wrist, are you trying to say that my left wrist is allergen prone and my right one isn't. Apple are doing great btw, fall in profits

Have you not been paying attention to the news? The Global economy is in, to put it mildly, a state of flux. China is having massive economic issues. China is one of Apple's major markets. Ergo..... Nothing to do with recalls on a some chargers and even fewer people complaining about Apple Watches.

Feb 4, 2016 8:57 AM in response to Savvyxone

Savvyxone wrote:


I totally disagree as different people have different skin types structures and sensitivity so what I'm saying is they need to change the time frame to suit the majority and minority and this also would help in the ongoing battery drain issue

My skin is about as pale as possible with out being translucent. I can't use most kinds of soap because it makes me break out in a rash. Let's not even get into what dry, cold winter weather does (also involves a rash). I do not go out in daylight without lots of sunscreen and even so, I've had multiple pre-cancerous lesions removed. If anyone was going to get burned by an overheating watch, it would be me. I've worn my Apple watch 12 hours a day since the April 30, 2015. I've run with it. I have not so much as turned pink.


If your watch is getting hot enough to burn you, there is something wrong with it. Get it fixed.

Feb 26, 2016 3:57 PM in response to ukjames

I too was burned by my watch. Make that an electrical shock resulting in a burn. Watch TV, suddenly haptic went crazy, felt a mild shock, looked at watch it indicated battery was low - offered reserve option - then immediately shut down. Result is burn on arm size of nickel with four distinct elements matching the back of the watch. Took watch back to Apple, they were going to send to health and safety team. I was impressed how serious they were in the store, the time they spent filling out the forms. Waiting to hear back. There is an inconvenience factor. The $$ I spent on a watch that is no longer in my possession. Not sure if this red spot on arm will go away or if will get watch (or refund) back.

Feb 26, 2016 4:30 PM in response to Savvyxone

Oh tommyrot, you just blow a lot of hot air. There is only one heartrate sensor on the back and I've never been burned by it. Neither have almost all of the owners of the Apple Watch. And you don't know anything about the design plans for the next version of the Apple Watch.


Since you are planning to enter into litigation you need to quit posting here.

Feb 26, 2016 4:43 PM in response to deggie

I Can discuss what I like here thank you litigation or not makes no difference and as for heart rate sensors here a little information for you my friend..



its it's just an led the exact same as a camera flash on any phone and 2 of the LED of the 4 light up when the software is activated , you can use a lot of apps just by putting your finger over a camera flash LED and get the exact same results, there's plenty of android apps around that prove that, best off not commenting any more about what I am speaking about as you have no clue as to what I am referring to.

Jan 29, 2016 3:19 AM in response to ukjames

Instead they have a webpage now dedicated to explaining that prolonged use? is the problem and that they used metals and materials that some? may have problems with. It was fresh out the box, then charged, then worn for 24h. If 24h is prolonged use, then why do they advertise it as a product that can be worn like a regular watch in day and night? The product worked, I think it was a fault with the battery as when i charged it, it heated up just the same as my iPhones did from new. I wore it once it was cool (temp wise) and the next day when I removed the watch It had burned my skin (1st Degree Burn). You do not need a BA or MA to identify a burn..

Feb 4, 2016 6:33 AM in response to Savvyxone

Skin type structures would have no involvement in whether the sensor was hot enough to burn anyone. If the timeframe was set for every 30 minutes, including while exercising, they might as well remove the heart sensor and make it just a watch. If people are being burned by the heat from the sensor then the sensor on that particular watch must be defective. For all the rest of the Watches it does not put out anywhere near enough heat to cause any burn.

Oct 16, 2017 7:08 PM in response to flyerfanguy

flyerfanguy wrote:


I wear mine overnight to use sleep monitoring app and the other day woke up with a burn a little larger than a pea and the skin is actually raw as if I lost a layer of skin......bummer because I love the watch but haven’t been able to wear for 3 days waiting for new skin to grow....

You may also have had an allergic reaction. What did your doctor say?

Jan 19, 2016 2:53 PM in response to ukjames

Where are you located? Is there an Apple Store close by you? I would have suggested going to the Apple Store to have someone see this. Two things come to mind, this return desk manager is not an Apple representative, nor does he have a medical degree to determine that the injury you sustained is from the watch. There is nothing at the back of the watch that could cause a burn.


In the end, I'm glad you were able to get your money back, but given the fact there is nothing on the back of the watch that can cause a burn, and you did not sustain a burn anywhere else when dealing with the watch. As far as compensation, that is something you would have to take up with Apple directly. This is a user to user support forum, no one could answer that question for you.

Jan 19, 2016 4:00 PM in response to ukjames

Hi James


If you experience redness, swelling, itchiness or any other irritation or discomfort on your skin around - or beneath - your watch, Apple recommends that you remove your watch and consult a physician before wearing it again.


Skin reactions can be a result of various causes including allergies (eg to nickel), extended exposure to irritants (eg soap or sweat), environmental factors and fit of the band (too tight or too loose). Irritants can make skin reactions more likely if found between the watch and/or band and your skin.


You mention that you "rubbed the watch on my arms, face and legs to see if a reaction occurs". However, some such reactions may only be noticeable following extended exposure, such as the 24 hour period for which you report having first worn the watch on your affected wrist.


More information:

Wearing Apple Watch - Apple Support

Cleaning and wearing Apple Watch - Apple Support


It is also possible that your watch overheated. This may, for example, have been caused by a defective or damaged battery.


In respect of heat-related matters, the Important Safety Information provided by Apple within the User Guide advises:


  • Apple Watch and the supplied power accessories "comply with applicable surface temperature standards and limits. However, even within these limits, sustained contact with warm surfaces for long periods of time may cause discomfort or injury."
  • "Take special care if you have a physical condition that affects your ability to detect heat against the body."
  • "Remove Apple Watch if it becomes uncomfortably warm."


If you are dissatisfied with the handling of your support case, contact and advise Apple Support accordingly:

https://www.apple.com/support/watch/contact/

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