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Terrible battery life on MacBook Pro 15" Retina w\OS X 10.8.x

My MacBook Pro 15" only got anywhere near the advertised battery life when it was quite new. It's only about 6 months old now and I haven't even used it heavily as a primary computer until recently. I have noticed that the battery life is quite mediocre - only around 4 hours. The other thing is that the computer is constantly hot even when barely doing anything with it - like light surfing, reading emails, watching a movie, etc. Watching youtube videos is one of the worst things ever, it causes the fans to kick in at high speed and get VERY hot. In comparison my girlfriend's latest generation MacBook Air 13" is always cool while doing the same tasks and the battery lasts very close to the advertised 12 hour battery life. Her computer never gets half as hot as mine and I rarely hear the fans.


What's going on here? Ever since my iPhone 4 every new phone has been a disaster (most often due to battery issues). This MacBook Pro was great when I got it but now after only 6 months it's also plagued by horrible heat and battery issues. On the other hand the latest MacBook Air and latest iPad Retina have been fantastic. Always delivering close to the advertised battery life and without problem. The iPad even handled the iOS 7 upgrade without battery drain but not the phone.

What's going on here? Why are Apple products so hit or miss all of a sudden and what's with the heat and battery issues?

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5), Retina

Posted on Sep 26, 2013 12:16 PM

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Posted on Sep 26, 2013 1:38 PM

Did you already try to install software to monitor the usage, for example "iStat Menus"?

That way you could see if there are any apps running in the background that aren't supposed to run and many other info about the status of your machine. The app is also available as a demo version.

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Sep 28, 2013 11:52 PM in response to Ingo2711

I will give that a shot.


One thing I've noticed that really makes the computer extremely hot and quick battery drain is Youtube or other video sites an flash based websites. Is that normal? If so why don't they fix it? Even the crappiest netbook on the market can play youtube videos without getting taxed.


The computer is alaways hottest on that metal strip just above the keyboard. Sometimes it's nearly so hot that it's uncomfortable to touch it. Right now as I type this with nothing open but my webbrowser I would estimate tha strip of metal is easily 130-140 degrees. This doesn't happy on the MacBook air with the same operating system.

Sep 29, 2013 12:13 AM in response to brsm1990

Look at this. I'm not even playing a video yet just opened a page that has shockwave flash content and it's using 42% of the CPU. ***?


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I can't remember the last time I owned a computer that would be taxed by opening a single flash based web page... This is obscene. THis is also not the only thing that produces poor battery life but it's one of the better examples. Just while I've typed this with a flash page open in another tab in the background I've lost 4% battery and my computer is very hot.

Sep 29, 2013 12:28 AM in response to Ingo2711

Look at this:


Flash page open but not playing video:


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Flash page with video playing:


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Why is the GPU getting so hot? The GPU shouldn't even be in use. Apple's specs brag that the latest gen MacBook pro has both Nvidia and standard Intel (read: garbage) graphics on board and that the larger dedicated video card only gets used when necessary to preserve battery life. Well you don't need an upgraded video card to watch low res flash videos in a web browser.

Sep 29, 2013 12:37 AM in response to brsm1990

Your Flash plugin CPU usage is certainly higher than mine (11.0% when viewing a YouTuble Flash video). I'm using the beta version of Adobe Flash Player (11.9.900.110) on my machine and it seems to use fewer resources than the 11.8.xxx.xxx version. You may want to give it a try.


Even Firefox (which I use as well) is consuming more of your CPU usage than on my machine (12.9%)... it's no wonder that you're having problems with battery life - your CPU processes are running much higher than normal.


Unfortunately, I don't have a solution for your problem. Daily restarts may help (I tend to only reboot once every 2-3 weeks, unless I've installed software that requires a restart). Other than that I can only tell you that you're CPU processes are abnormal and that's certainly one of the reasons that you're getting such high power consumption on battery.


Clinton

Sep 29, 2013 12:45 AM in response to clintonfrombirmingham

I restart all the time. I am often running no more than firefox and mail (when working). Flash is not the only thing that just absolutely destroys the battery, cpu and GPU it was just a good example. You should see what happens if I try to use Photoshop or Final Cut Pro.


What about the GPU? That's heating up even more than the CPU when it shouldn't even be functioning?

Sep 29, 2013 12:53 AM in response to brsm1990

Since I've 16GB of RAM, I tend to leave a lot of applications (as well as Windows 7 Pro with 6GB in use under Parallels) but I never have seen the CPU usage that you're showing. As for the GPU, no, neither Firefox nor Mail should force the discrete GPU to be utilized.


At this point, with your MacBook Pro still have 6 months (at least) of warranty remaining, I would take your machine into your local Apple Store or AASP and show them the high CPU usage and the fact that the discrete GPU kicks in when it shouldn't and let them run diagnostics on your machine. What you've shown is clearly not normal. Perhaps a diagnosis will show exactly what is wrong.


Good luck,


Clinton

Oct 23, 2013 2:10 AM in response to brsm1990

Just want to bring this up again. I've got the MBPr with 16GB memory and a 2.6GHz processor and my battery life is also shot to pieces. I unplugged two hours ago at 100% and dropped to 40% before plugging back in.


As for the processor, if I watch a YouTube or Vimeo clip my fans start up after a minute or two and like the OP I've not had a machine for a long time that cant handle YouTube .. could this be a Chome issue?

Oct 23, 2013 2:51 AM in response to damodamodamo

Problem still not solved, however I've learend some things, many of them the hard way.


1.) Connecting an external monitor, even if it's a lower resolution that the internal and even if you have the internal monitor disabled, engages the discrete GPU. Apparently this is normal. (Anyone that knows for sure please confirm or deny).


2.) I wasted a day restoring to factory to see if things were any different. I still got crazy high CPU temps for relatively trivial CPU usages. Anywhere from 20-30% load was enough to push the cores over 100C and fan speeds to maximum. Basically if you're doing anything more than 5% load, temperatures are unreasonably high and battery life is unreasonably bad.


3.) The fact that youtube heads up a $2000+ brand new laptop is certainly a bad joke. However, I did learn that for whatever reason the computer seems to handle youtube (and any flash) in Safari far better than in firefox or chrome. This doesn't do anything to solve the general high temps under any other task but it is useful to know.


4.) I learned that Apple is a terrible, terrible company. They don't care at all about customers and they don't acknowledge any legitimate usage of their products beyond "expensive toys" as evidenced by their slow and incompetent repairs and repair policy. I wasted over a week getting my computer "repaired" and they didn't fix it. That in and of itself is unacceptable if you need your computer on a daily basis for work. I told them it wasn't fixed they denied it. I had to do my own research and digup Intel and Nvidia specs to prove it to them (see next point) then they finally acknowledged there was still an issue. Their solution? A few more days of diagnostics. It's ridiculous the contempt they have for their customers after they churn out shoddy products.


5.) The official intel spec says the absolute max CPU diode temp (aka TJunction) is 105C, my particular CPU: ttp://ark.intel.com/products/64900. At this point the computer will (or at least should) shut down automatically to prevent physical damage. My temps routinely reached up to 104C even when not under full load. This is most deifnitely abnormal. Before reaching 105C and shutting down completely intel CPUs of this type will automatically "throttle" which means to decrease maximum performance in an attempt to cool themselves down. I spoke with builders of custom systems that add additional cooling, do overclocking etc. with this generation of i5 and i7 CPUs. They said: We don't like to see them over 80C at full load, maybe a little bit higher in our laptops but not a ton. Constantly exceeding 90 and 100C is definitely not normal and will cause throttling and potentially decreased lifespan.


It would appear we're not the only ones (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4029639). Maybe it's time to switch back to Dell, a company that actually replaces faulty products when they can't repair or troubleshoot them in a timely fashion...


Here's a fresh factory operating system. No new software installed except the temperature monitoring software. Under less than 50% load. 3/4 cores exceeding 100C. Incredible!


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