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Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 8:00 AM (in response to ThingFish)My SL installation was the most painlessly smooth OS upgrade ever. Everything is faster -- especially Safari.
Flip4Mac doesn't work but that's Flip4Mac's fault.iMac, MacBook, 3GS, 3G, Mac OS X (10.6), Safari 4.0.3
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 8:03 AM (in response to ThingFish)FWIW, count me in as one who had no serious problem with the upgrade. One tiny glitch with a missing printer driver, that took less than two minutes to diagnose and fix.
This was my very first Mac OS upgrade, and I was a bit worried, since I'm no Mac guru. And the hardware on a first revision MacBook Air is somewhat unique. But it took around three times as long to back up my computer as it took to be up and running with the upgrade. Even the Slingplayer works, and I was prepared for it not to, since I couldn't get an answer from Sling Media about it when I asked.
Not even a mini disaster. And it freed up a bunch of space, which is meaningful on an 80GB hard drive...MacBook Air (original,HDD), Mac OS X (10.6), iPhone 3G 3.0.1, Dell Vista and XP Pro machines
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 8:10 AM (in response to ThingFish)
I'd rather keep on running nice and trouble free on Leopard 10.5.8
Suit yourself. Meanwhile, I'll be running nice and trouble free on Snow Leopard 10.6.
MattDual 1.8 GHz G5 2.5 GB RAM/MBP 2.26GHz 2GB RAM/iSight/iPod nano 4g/iPhone 3GS, Mac OS X (10.6), ATI Radeon 9600, Time Capsule, AirPort Express
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 8:13 AM (in response to ThingFish)Remember, these forums are like Emergency Rooms. And you don't see too many healthy folks in ERs (unless they brought in the victim!). My install of SL was trouble free. Only "hitch" was when I first tried to print -- but then I remembered I needed to download the drivers and all was well.
PhilMacBook Al 2.4, Mac OS X (10.6), Dell WinXP Desktop ; iPhone 3G[S], OS 3.0.1
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 8:26 AM (in response to ThingFish)Hmm.
SL install did kill my MBP. But it's not a biggy - I think anyone using a custom install and playing heavily with system files and customisations should expect things not to go accordingly and plan for the worst. I backed up and although it's not fun having to go back and clean install etc (was advised by apple who I got through to easily that I should go back to Tiger and work my way up) - I'm not bitter - just the way of computers - yeah it ***** when it happens to you but Thingfish you should know that millions of people are updating, and only a few people have posted problems. What you're doing is extremely negative - and how is it helpful? You are a troll. Sorry.
EddMacbook Pro 17" 2.33Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 8:37 AM (in response to ThingFish)
Well I'm glad to hear that my worries are unfounded then. It's these 2 threads on this forum that got me all worried....
ThingFish, if you let a few threads about an update or upgrade problems worry you over much, you will never install any of them! You may even end up worrying that whatever version you have installed is a ticking time bomb soon to blow up your Mac!
Why? Because some number of users will always have problems after any update or upgrade, immediately jump to the conclusion that it was the cause, & post dire warnings that it should be avoided, it is the worst ever, etc. But that kind of thinking contains a logical fallacy: "after" does not necessarily mean "because of".
Usually, the cause of the problem is something else & the update/upgrade just reveals it. The most common causes are hardware problems (especially with added on memory modules), hacks & other modifications to the OS that in effect make it a different one from what Apple supports, & (probably the most common) corruption of the hard drive's filing system that results in OS & other files being mangled as they are installed or updated.
But occasionally, there really is a flaw that can be traced to the update/upgrade itself, one that might affect you. So how do you tell the difference?
First of all, read the posts critically. How specific are they? Do they give any details about the Mac, what is installed on it, or any history of other problems? Do the posters seem knowledgeable? Do they use precise terminology or vague phrases like "it killed my Mac"? Do they seem more interested in finding a solution or in ranting?
Follow the thread for a while. Do you see posts from other users saying they had no problems? Do you see "me too" posts that confuse unrelated symptoms with whatever the topic is about? Check the user rating (the blue bars under the poster's alias) to get a rough idea of the expertise of those saying whatever they are saying about the issue. Do posts link to useful, pertinent articles, especially from Apple or respected third party sources? Do those involved seem open minded about alternate explanations, provide asked for supplemental info, & willing to try troubleshooting suggestions; or do they seem resistant to anything that doesn't support the idea that the new software is at fault?
None of these things by themselves will tell you much. But together they are a pretty good indicator of how worried you should be that there is a serious flaw in the new software vs. something that is mistaken for one.iMac 2008 24"/3.06 GHz; White MacBook/2.4 GHz; iMac G5 17" ALS/2.0 GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Kensington Trackball; Airport Extreme 802.11n; assorted iPods and older Macs
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 8:44 AM (in response to mgsylvestre)mgsylvestre,
Take a look at [this thread|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1926555]
It is possible for printer manufacturers to create drivers that only work via USB, not network. Those drivers will work if the printer is connected to an Airport Extreme base station's USB port, but sharing a printer sometimes will not.1.8 SP G5/iMac G4 FP/MBP 2.33/PB G3 Pismo, Mac OS X (10.5.8), XLR8 G4 Upgrade for Pismo
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 9:16 AM (in response to R C-R)RC-R Just want to thank you for your balanced reply. I appreciate it and it is very helpful.
FredMacmini 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 2GB Ram, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 9:22 AM (in response to ThingFish)I installed SL last night seemed snappy 3 sec. shut down nice then now everytime I start up boot takes 1 plus min. ( before SL 3o sec. boot everytime) shut down insted of just shut down within 4 sec. screen turns blue then spinning wheel ( not beachball) for 1plus min. then shut down just does not seem right sluggish. have no 3rd party apps all apple just did afresh install of leopard 10.5.8 last week everything was ok now very unhappy also got a SUID remark in perms but thats ok I think any sugestions I gona try to do a fresh install and wipe drive and instal via DU.Macbook Unibody, Mac OS X (10.6)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 9:32 AM (in response to ThingFish)Mine came in the mail yesterday also. I ran Disk Warrior, backed up with SuperDuper then installed Snow Leopard. I have had no trouble on my MacBook Pro.PowerMac G5, Mac OS X (10.5)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 9:32 AM (in response to Ian Parkinson)hi
What is the build version ie 10a432 (or what ever) in the version you all have now. ?
I have my disk on order from apple but I dont expect to get that for a week or so, it would be interesting in there are a few tweaks that come out over the next couple of weeks.
thanksmacbook pro C2D 2.66 , 4gb ram, 320 gb hd, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 9:34 AM (in response to Spookola)
Actually, Noiseboy2006, everyone in the world IS dying. Sorry.
Good point, if somewhat pedantic. It's true that life is the most common sexually transmitted disease.Intel iMac Core 2 Duo 17" 2.16, Mac OS X (10.5.8), iPhone 3G
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 9:41 AM (in response to JSchneid)
Mine came in the mail yesterday also. I ran Disk Warrior, backed up with SuperDuper then installed Snow Leopard. I have had no trouble on my MacBook Pro.
Its always sensible to fix permissions and make a backup before an upgrade but a word of warning about Disk Warrior. What ever you do DO NOT use DW 4.1 with SL. There is an update on the Alsoft website in case you haven't got it yet.
http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/diskwarriorupdate.htmlIntel iMac Core 2 Duo 17" 2.16, Mac OS X (10.5.8), iPhone 3G
Currently Being ModeratedAug 29, 2009 11:54 AM (in response to ThingFish)I've installed SL without any problems so far. The installer noted programs that might require Rosetta and then downloaded it. I find it to be stable so far and not a major disaster. It captured 34.3 GB of capacity on my HD and opened up 40.31 GB of available space! I did note more files though than I had originally. Do remember to close your Time Machine and eject your external backup drive BEFORE upgrading. The QT is awesome.
RAPMacPro2X3 GHZ Quad Intel/xenon,Power G4 DP 450, Mac OS X (10.6), 15 G/30 G hardrives, 2 second generation iPods