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iTuens 9 - Recently Added all mixed up

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  • Dancsecs Calculating status...
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    Sep 11, 2009 11:36 AM (in response to cornelis thomas)
    I don't think it is a problem with the various iPods. I have been using an iPod classic and did upgrade not it yet I am experiencing the same issue. I have many podcasts grouped by Smart playlists sorted on my own custom comments. Both the sort order and live updating are important to me given the volume of podcasts and the length of time I sometimes want to go between re-syncs. An hour before the iTunes 9 upgrade everything worked perfectly. After the iTunes upgrade sort order in my classic is all messed up. If I turn off live updating then the playlist is empty on my ipod.

    One further thing. When my ipod is plugged into iTunes 9 and I look at the iPod's smart playlist it is empty but the sorting informtion in the headers is correct. The iPod on the other had shows my entries but is very strangely sorted.
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  • at211 Calculating status...
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    Sep 11, 2009 1:37 PM (in response to Dancsecs)
    I'm having the same issues with iTunes 9, iPod Touch OS 3.1 and Win XP Pro. Very, very annoying.

    I've also noticed the play counts for my tracks are now waaaay off, like some being listed as having been played thousands of times (as opposed to about 50, the correct number)
    Windows XP Pro
  • aswitcher Calculating status...
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    Sep 11, 2009 9:36 PM (in response to at211)
    Broken for me as well. Very annoying
    Mac OS X (10.4.8)
  • besttobreakk Calculating status...
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    Sep 12, 2009 1:25 AM (in response to cgrier)
    I think it's ALL smart playlists. I just used "Copy to Play Order" on my Recently Added, and my Touch synced, and all of my smart playlists got messed up. I have Recently Added, Recently Played, and Top Played. Some play counts also got messed up. One of my favorite songs had 1000+ play counts, and now it's only 101. Please fix it Apple!!!
    Dell Inspiron 1525, Windows Vista
  • jarred1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Sep 12, 2009 2:02 AM (in response to cgrier)
    ok now i figured out what works you have to uncheck live updating in the edit playlist and everything goes back t normal but its annoying that you are going to have to connect to the computer in order to get the playlist updated
    acer, Windows XP, Iphone 3G
  • controller2k Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)
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    Sep 12, 2009 8:31 AM (in response to jarred1)
    After seeing so many posts on this, I decided to double check my phone. There's definitely something going on.

    All my smart playlists that are derivative of other lists (example - I have a top rated, then a top rated for iPhone which is a limited subset of that) transfer over fine to the phone and in the right order. This makes sense; they are based on playlists NOT on the phone so my guess is they transfer over "dumb" and are only updated in iTunes.

    Smart playlists that exist alone, however, (example: Best of the Beatles, which selects all songs from the Beatles with a rating over 3 stars), not only are not in the same order as on iTunes but the songs in some cases aren't even the same.

    This behavior I think is proof that the phone is trying to update the songs on its own (kind of an internal live updating) based on what it has on the phone. This is messing the order of everything up.

    The fix then is either a) *create derivative smart playslists* as described above, or b) shut off live updating. Both cause lists that can't be live updated on the phone to work on the phone.

    I too hope Apple fixes this soon. This is not the first time this bug has happened!
    Mac Pro '09 8-Core 2.2/8800GT/12GB|late 08 MB 2.4/500GB/Late 08 MB 2.0, Mac OS X (10.6), & iPhone3GS 32gb, 160GB iPod Classic, iPod Shuffle 2.0 1GB, AEBS and AE 802.11N
  • InTheoryStudios Calculating status...
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    Sep 12, 2009 8:00 PM (in response to cgrier)
    Yeah, I'm having the same problem with my Podcasts. It was displaying in order after a sync and now since the upgrade, its all messed up.
    iPhone 3G, iPhone OS 3.0.1
  • shaloot Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 12, 2009 8:34 PM (in response to controller2k)
    "All my smart playlists that are derivative of other lists (example - I have a top rated, then a top rated for iPhone which is a limited subset of that) transfer over fine to the phone and in the right order. This makes sense; they are based on playlists NOT on the phone so my guess is they transfer over "dumb" and are only updated in iTunes."

    how did you make the "top rated for iphone" smart list? i dont mess with SPL's that much but i'd like to learn more thats awesome.

    so for the people whose MOST PLAYED smart playlists are getting messed up, especially the guy who mentioned he had a 1000+ play count on one song and now it has changed to 101... do you think that itunes used the play count from the IPHONE/TOUCH and replaced the one of the computer?
  • Razorhog Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 13, 2009 12:47 PM (in response to shaloot)
    Bump. I hope this problem gets noticed and addressed by apple. How do I submit an error report/feedback?
    24" iMac (first gen), Mac OS X (10.5.8)
  • Dent, Arthur P Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 13, 2009 7:48 PM (in response to Razorhog)
    This is clearly not just an iPhone / iPod Touch issue. Nor is it limited to Leopard or Snow Leopard.

    I am still running 10.4 and using an iPod classic 5th gen. After updating to iTunes 9 I have all the same issues. Very annoying!
    Powerbook
  • controller2k Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)
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    Sep 13, 2009 9:02 PM (in response to shaloot)
    myjunkname wrote:
    how did you make the "top rated for iphone" smart list? i dont mess with SPL's that much but i'd like to learn more thats awesome.

    so for the people whose MOST PLAYED smart playlists are getting messed up, especially the guy who mentioned he had a 1000+ play count on one song and now it has changed to 101... do you think that itunes used the play count from the IPHONE/TOUCH and replaced the one of the computer?


    I have a playlist which is my songs rated 4+ sorted by most played. That's like 5000 songs. Then I have a playlist called Top Played for iPhone, which references the first list, says no to media kind of video, movie, podcast (just music in other words), and limits to say, 750 songs. That list works fine on the iPhone.

    Not sure on the play counts since I haven't been paying attention but I will now since 3.1 came out.
    Mac Pro '09 8-Core 2.2/8800GT/12GB|late 08 MB 2.4/500GB/Late 08 MB 2.0, Mac OS X (10.6), & iPhone3GS 32gb, 160GB iPod Classic, iPod Shuffle 2.0 1GB, AEBS and AE 802.11N
  • Strefo Calculating status...
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    Sep 14, 2009 8:33 AM (in response to cgrier)
    I just updated to iTunes 9 with my iPod Photo and had the same problem with my Recently Added List. I worked around this by going to Edit Smart Playlist and setting the fields accordingly:

    Date added --- is the last----2 weeks
    Genre----contains----Podcast

    Check---Limit to---100 items---selected by---most recently added
    Check Live updating

    This works for me although newly imported music does not appear on this list, only podcasts.
    Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6)
  • Scott Smallwood Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Sep 14, 2009 11:46 AM (in response to cgrier)
    I'm experiencing the same w/ my recently updated 16 3GS iPhone running OS 3.1 and syncing to new iNotes 9. Recently Added and any other "Smartplaylist" appears in random order on the phone while viewing the playlist in iTunes (with the phone plugged in via USB) displays the correct order (???). I too found the fix to be disabling the "live updating" option and resyncing but kind of defeats the purpose of a Smartplaylist, correct? Same playlists sync fine to my 120 GB iPod Classic 6th generation and 3rd generation iPod Nano.. This needs to be addressed by Apple in the form of an iTunes update or perhaps even another OS release as only seems to be an issue w/ iPhones (and perhaps iPod Touches as well?)

    UGLY!!!
    Intel Core Duo 21" iMac, Mac OS X (10.5.5), G4 Sawtooth, G3 iMac DV
  • Reuben Feffer Level 2 Level 2 (195 points)
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    Sep 14, 2009 12:08 PM (in response to cgrier)
    You know, this problem existed on the iPod touch (and presumably the iPhone) for a very long time, but was eventually fixed in iPhone OS 1.1.3 which was released in January 2008. And everything's been fine since then. Here's a discussion about it:

    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1300381&tstart=0

    So it's really frustrating that now, in September 2009, Apple have brought the problem back with iPhone OS 3.1. They solved the problem, and now they've broken the solution, taking us back to the original problem!
    iMac 17" 2GHz, 2GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive (Xbench 134.26), Mac OS X (10.6), 16GB iPhone 3GS, 40GB Apple TV
  • mzd Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 7:37 AM (in response to cgrier)
    Same problem for me as well - Recently Added, Top 25 Most Played, etc. Basically any smart playlist that derives from song statistics. Very frustrating and also, the playlists above are "stock" playlists that Apple includes with the iTunes install so they are obviously considered useful.

    iTunes 9; iPod touch (2g) 3.1.1

    Turning off "live updating" in iTunes completely takes away the functionality of these playlists so that isn't a solution. The song statistics kept on your iPod/iPhone must either be a completely separate database, not aware of any of the iTunes usage statistics, or this is just a bug.
    iMac 24" 2.8 c2e, Mac OS X (10.6.1)

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