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iTunes 9 - Mini Player weird behaviour

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  • Mike Connelly Level 4 Level 4 (1,785 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 8:51 AM (in response to Fenwood)
    Fenwood wrote:
    Just change the rule to say that the green button is for maximizing the window OR for switching to an alternate display if one is available, such as the itunes mini player. Problem solved and everyone happy.


    Not really. iTunes, has the ability switch to the mini player or to maximize the window. Obviously they can't both be on the same button, so it makes sense to have that button do the thing that it does in other apps.

    The mini player is something that isn't in most apps, so they should just add a custom button to switch to it.

    jonathanbordeaux wrote:
    Have to agree here, I'm really lost as to why Apple decided to remove this extremely handy feature to the point of denying it to us.


    I can see why people are upset, but they didn't "remove" anything.

    The mini player is still there. And there are still two ways to switch to it. Apple just changed the ways you switch to it. It makes sense that some people would be upset by it, but I don't think Apple is going to be any more convinced by pretending that the feature is gone, it just makes it seem like people don't understand how it works.
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  • rpduval Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 8:57 AM (in response to Mike Connelly)
    Say rather that it makes people seem like they don't like how it works now and it's an accurate statement.

    And they did remove a feature - the ability to use one finger to switch between the mini player and a full window. Show me where that feature got "moved" to please.
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  • Mike Connelly Level 4 Level 4 (1,785 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 9:10 AM (in response to rpduval)
    Obviously people don't like how it works now. And I don't agree that's a "feature" (besides the fact that if you're going to define features however you'd like, then technically you can still switch with one finger by clicking your mouse on the menu and selecting Switch To Mini).
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  • rpduval Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 9:18 AM (in response to Mike Connelly)
    Whatever - you can keep arguing that conformity is good. Most Mac owners would say you're wrong.
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  • x23 Calculating status...
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    Sep 16, 2009 9:20 AM (in response to vanoord)
    at one point in time i could sit on my laptop and listen to things on my tower at work.

    and grab the mouse... click a button and have it go mini.

    NOW... i have to actually use two hands and reach over with my left to press a button to make it go mini. LAME.

    turned a simple one-hand gesture into a two-hand gesture. i can't believe anyone is actually defending more inconvenient usability.

    especially when for most people (that aren't Windows converts)... no one even uses the 'green' button except in iTunes.
    lots.
  • Mike Connelly Level 4 Level 4 (1,785 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 9:49 AM (in response to rpduval)
    I don't think you're in a position to speak for "most mac owners".
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  • Robin Halabicki Calculating status...
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    Sep 16, 2009 10:00 AM (in response to Mike Connelly)
    Mike I'm surprised you're fighting against so many users. I for one agree the others. I don't understand why apple would change the default behaviour, unless it was to add/increase functionality.

    The problem is, the new method doesn't do that, clicking the green button just moves the player window around, IT DOESN'T EVEN ADHEAR TO APPLES OWN STANDARDS of how the button should behave.

    It seems to me, there is a fairly large group of people:
    http://newtonpoetry.com/2009/09/15/itunes-9-mini-player-is-ruined/
    http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/itunes9/index.html

    who are upset by it.
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  • rpduval Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 10:08 AM (in response to Mike Connelly)
    Mike Connelly wrote:
    I don't think you're in a position to speak for "most mac owners".


    Since you really have no idea, feel free to think what you like. =)
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  • Mike Connelly Level 4 Level 4 (1,785 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 10:20 AM (in response to rpduval)
    rpduval wrote:
    Since you really have no idea, feel free to think what you like. =)


    That's exactly my point - none of us here know what Most Mac Users think, we can only speak for ourselves.

    Robin Halabicki wrote:
    Mike I'm surprised you're fighting against so many users.


    If you read what I have written, you'll see that actually I'm not. I agree that the current option-click is odd and less convenient and that apple should change it. I just think they should fix it by adding a new button instead of switching it back. What would be your objection to that?

    The problem is, the new method doesn't do that, clicking the green button just moves the player window around, IT DOESN'T EVEN ADHEAR TO APPLES OWN STANDARDS of how the button should behave.


    I'm completely agreed on that. I just think that the fix isn't to go back to the old (and in my opinion, bad) way, it's to fix maximizing on the green button, and add another button to toggle the mini player (as well as switching the zoom key command to something simpler, specifically something that can be done with just the left hand).
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  • rpduval Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 10:25 AM (in response to Mike Connelly)
    Mike Connelly wrote:

    That's exactly my point - none of us here know what Most Mac Users think, we can only speak for ourselves.


    May as well feel free to deliberately misinterpret what I said too! =)
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  • Robin Halabicki Level 2 Level 2 (400 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 10:58 AM (in response to Mike Connelly)
    {quote:title=Mike Connelly wrote:}I'm completely agreed on that. I just think that the fix isn't to go back to the old (and in my opinion, bad) way, it's to fix maximizing on the green button, and add another button to toggle the mini player{quote}

    BAH-INGO
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  • Mike Connelly Level 4 Level 4 (1,785 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 11:12 AM (in response to Robin Halabicki)
    Glad I could clarify, looks like we're on the same page on this.

    There are two separate features that various users want, no reason Apple can't provide both of them.
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  • Fenwood Calculating status...
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    Sep 16, 2009 7:26 PM (in response to Mike Connelly)
    Yeah, somebody has to speak for all those mac users who hated the way the green button used to active the mini player. Which was probably something like one or two people tops. If that.
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  • Fenwood Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 16, 2009 7:34 PM (in response to Mike Connelly)
    Mike Connelly wrote:
    rpduval wrote:

    ...I agree that the current option-click is odd and less convenient and that apple should change it. I just think they should fix it by adding a new button instead of switching it back. What would be your objection to that?...


    I could live with that. It has to be a single button prominently displayed on the main itunes window, but that would be okay. In fact, I am convinced that I remember exactly such a thing existing in the very first version of itunes released for Windows and I've always wondered why it isn't there anymore. It is amazingly stupid not to have such a button. Since I don't use itunes on Windows anymore, I don't care so much as long as we've had the green button on Mac itunes.
    Either way is fine with me, but we have to have at least one of them - green button to mini player or dedicated button to mini player, single click only & no keyboard actions required.
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  • Bevelmon Calculating status...
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    Sep 16, 2009 7:49 PM (in response to vanoord)
    Add one more to the single click mini-player request! The green + can do whatever, however if not the mini-player, then there needs to be a separate button or preference setting so it's convenient again. As the most used button in iTunes, you would hope Apple is hearing us, but I'll send in some feedback on this anyway just incase they aren't reading all the posts here.
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