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Sep 25, 2009 5:18 PM
I've had no problems with my 7 year old 700 mHz eMac until this morning. I was letting it run and download some updates from Software Update overnight. When I got up this morning, I remembered that I had let it run all night long. It was stuck on the iTunes update, which I had needed to quit before it continued. I did and sent it on its merry way which it began to do with the rest of the updates. At some point in the next half hour, the mouse got moved and the widgets got stuck and frozen as it was still downloading. Frozen, I couldn't force quit anything, so I turned off the power (probably the big mistake right there...). It hasn't been able to re-boot past the gray screen, then the white screen with the apple, since. It sits at that screen and instead of running the little spinning circle like it usually does while booting I get nothing for hours. I tried zapping the PRAM, nothing changes. I cannot go into single user or verbose modes. I re-booted from the Install CD and ran Disk Utility. It verifies that the HD needs to be repaired and that "Keys are out of order..." I hit repair and it says that it is re-building the catalogue B tree and then says that Repairs are completed, but the HD is still unmounted. Is there any way to force it to mount? I'm thinking about picking up a copy of Disk Warrior tomorrow and crossing my fingers. I have LOTS of stuff that I have wanted to backup on an external hard drive that I haven't been able to afford. Any suggestions?
eMac 700 mHz, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • Dale Weisshaar Level 6 Level 6 (15,855 points)
    It verifies that the HD needs to be repaired and that "Keys are out of order..." >

    Keys out of order is something Disk Utility can not repair...

    As you already guessed......


    If Disk Utility can't fix it, you'll need a more robust utility to repair it.

    I would recommend DiskWarrior. It is the best at directory repairs. It rebuilds then actually replaces your old directory. I feel every Mac owner should have a copy.

    Make sure you get the disk so you can boot up on it to run repairs. You can also install it on another drive and run it from there to repair this one. DW works faster that way.

    I use DW once a month to try and catch errors in my system from getting too far out of hand. It has repaired every little and big issue I have ever had with my three Macs.

    To be sure, a good backup, hopefully a clone of your system before you had issues, would be invaluable now. Let us know if you need help with that.

    Good Luck! DALE

    p.s. Here's a rewiew of DiskWarrior 4.

    MacPro, 3.0GHz Dual C., 5 GB, X1900, 30"ACD,Airport Extreme,HP C7180 Printer,, Mac OS X (10.5.7), G4 Gigabit Ethernet 1GHz OWC, 1.62MB,MacBook Pro Late '08, 15", 2.4GHz, 2GB
  • Dale Weisshaar Level 6 Level 6 (15,855 points)
    BrenGun1971 wrote:
    Thanks, Dale. Yes, I'm going to order DW today and give it a shot.

    Great!
    I've just replaced the eMac after a few years of thinking about it, with a MacBook Pro.

    Congrats! You'll like it....mine is great.
    I'm having problems getting the eMac to transfer files over via TDM,

    That's because the e-macs directory has serious damage. I would not risk migrating till you are sure DiskWarrior has successfully rebuilt the e-mac's directory. Your files are most likely damaged due to the directory issue, and if they do transfer over, will corrupt your brand new system.

    Do you have a trouble free backup of the e-mac?

    Dale
    MacPro, 3.0GHz Dual C., 5 GB, X1900, 30"ACD,Airport Extreme,HP C7180 Printer,, Mac OS X (10.5.7), G4 Gigabit Ethernet 1GHz OWC, 1.62MB,MacBook Pro Late '08, 15", 2.4GHz, 2GB
  • Dale Weisshaar Level 6 Level 6 (15,855 points)
    BrenGun1971 wrote:
    Alright, DW has been running. It cannot replace the corrupted directory.

    Is that what it reported? Or could it be that there is so much damage that it needs more time to run.
    I would run it two or three more times. On a badly corrupted drive, sometimes that is the best way to go.

    Dale
    MacPro, 3.0GHz Dual C., 5 GB, X1900, 30"ACD,Airport Extreme,HP C7180 Printer,, Mac OS X (10.5.8), G4 Gigabit Ethernet 1GHz OWC, 1.62MB,MacBook Pro Late '08, 15", 2.4GHz, 2GB
  • Dale Weisshaar Level 6 Level 6 (15,855 points)
    The new directory cannot replace the original directory because of a disk malfunction."

    Well, I would guess your disk is history if DiskWarrior can not repair it.

    Do you have a backup?

    Dale
    MacPro, 3.0GHz Dual C., 5 GB, X1900, 30"ACD,Airport Extreme,HP C7180 Printer,, Mac OS X (10.5.8), G4 Gigabit Ethernet 1GHz OWC, 1.62MB,MacBook Pro Late '08, 15", 2.4GHz, 2GB
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