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Mailing list set-up in OS X Server.

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apple_customer Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)
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Sep 30, 2009 9:51 PM
Dear members:


I have been looking at different options for setting up a few mailing list groups. One of the best options I have found in terms of functionality and features is Listserv software but it is very expensive and is only available in a Unix version (no OS X available) which would require me to install it using terminal.

Two other options are DirectMail and OS X Server. According to the info page on Apple's web site setting up a mailing list in OS X Snow Leopard Server is a fairly simple thing to do. At least that is what they say.

According to your experiences how simple is it to set up a few mailing lists in OS X ? Please consider that I am an advanced user but without any advanced training in networking or programming.

Thank you in advance,


JRC
Powermac G5 dual 2.0 GHz 4.5 GB RAM, (2) int 1.5 TB HD, 23" cinema display, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Powerbook G4 1.33. GHz 17", 1.0 GB RAM, 80 GB HD
  • Ashley Drees Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Oct 1, 2009 4:26 AM (in response to apple_customer)
    Hi.

    Mailman is installed on OSX by default and is a great mailing list management tool, it is well documented in both the 10.6 documentation and on the mailman home... it is a GOOD tool, with great command line control as well as a reasonable GUI.

    however since upgrading to 10.6 i have been having problems when i create groups which are supposed to have mailing lists... the lists and wiki's are no longer created... integrated lists are very important for us as are the mailman lists which are not part of our internal security.

    i am currently trouble shooting the mailman/10.6 integration and would be happy to hear from others who are having the same kind of issues.
    Xserv - MBP - iMac - mini, Mac OS X (10.6.1)
  • Camelot Level 8 Level 8 (45,670 points)
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    Oct 1, 2009 7:28 AM (in response to apple_customer)
    What's missing in your post is the functionality that's important to you.

    Mac OS X Server includes Mailman - one of the more common/popular list managers out there. However, no one can tell you whether it will suit your needs since we don't know what it is you want to do, nor do we know what 'features' of Listserv you find appealing that aren't in Mailman.

    In short, Mailman works pretty well. It's reasonably-well integrated into Mac OS X Server/Server Admin. It can handle huge lists, has a web-based front-end (including user management tools), but whether it will work for you is completely unknown.
    Mac OS X (10.5.6)
  • Ashley Drees Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Oct 3, 2009 8:28 AM (in response to apple_customer)
    ~ Joseph ~

    i have now resolved all my issues with the mail list functions on SL... and i am pretty confused as to why it is done like it is now. done... BUT... there are now TWO ways of creating lists in SL 10.6

    1, the mailman way, which is a proper mail list server and can be relied on and has sensible mail handling and bounce control and aparantly no longer linked to workgroup manager or OD

    2, the apple-wiki tool which uses a postfix alias populated with a group membership on creation.

    SO... if you need a group that is linked to a OD group and you do not mind the complete lack of management and the fact that the mailing list will be called group-wiki@host.com then use mailing lists linked to wiki...

    OR

    Use mailman... 10.6 has now removed the link between groups and mailman lists.. and you will soon loose the workgroup manager control (that no longer works) for integration with mailman lists... if you use mailman you have an industrial strength mailing list tool that you can sync with various other DB sources (inc LDAP) and has sensible bounce and mail handling...

    it took me a while yesterday to finally realise what has really changed and what i need to do to work as normal.

    My plan is to create a group in workgroup manager called "Mailing Lists" and then with a perl script interrogate OD for groups that are in my "Master mailing list group" and then sync the OD group user list emails with the list of the same name (as any group in the OD group "mailing lists") in MailMan.... which will give me OD managed group mailing lists again and also give me groupname@host.com for my list name...

    i object to have to call a mailing list with a "-wiki" extension to the name, and i would like to automatically have people added to mailing lists when they are put in groups...

    i am still working on all of this and i hope my findings are of some help.
    Xserv - MBP - iMac - mini, Mac OS X (10.6.1)
  • Annu Babu Calculating status...
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    Nov 22, 2009 8:11 AM (in response to Ashley Drees)
    Hi Ashley,

    I was wondering if you could help me with perl script. I'm trying to create a mailman, it works partially on web, until moderator gets the authorization it works but doesn't reach the user post approval


    Thanks,
    Annu
    XServe, Mac OS X (10.6.1)

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