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17228 Views 96 Replies Latest reply: Feb 11, 2010 12:27 PM by jboriginal
Currently Being ModeratedJan 31, 2010 8:21 AM (in response to e2photo)Actually having a bunch of Aperture libraries does not make a ton of sense but that is just my 2¢. It really is not a flexible way of dealing with things.
RBMacBookPro / MacPro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)
Currently Being ModeratedJan 31, 2010 1:50 PM (in response to rwboyer)RW,
I agree you with two exceptions:
1. As the size of the library grows, performance slows.
2. As the size of the library grows, my ability to hold it my internal drive becomes a little bit constraining.
So some data points.
I have the following master libraries (all referenced) for my pictures from
3. 2007--66 GB
4. 2008--65 GB
5. 2009--90GB in size and points to about 38,000 images
6. 2010--tiny still
I rarely need access to all of the pictures at one time... so having an annual library keeps the data elements a bit smaller and a little bit easier to manage.MBP C2D 3 gig RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.8), iMac G5
Currently Being ModeratedJan 31, 2010 1:53 PM (in response to e2photo)As a note - I have way more images in a single library than all of yours combined and it performs just fine. Having all your images in one place does wonders for you in a lot of ways.
You may want to re-think this as hardware continues to get faster, cheaper, better.
RBMacBookPro / MacPro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 2, 2010 12:26 PM (in response to abr8838)Thanks for a very reasoned and clear response to the AP and Lightroom "controversy". I am a big user of Aperture -complete with its quirks- but I also wondered if I was missing anything in Lightroom. My experiment, although more limited than yours, made me draw the same conclusion as you.
I think what makes users wonder if Apple is "abandoning" Aperture is the lack of updates -but this doesn't mean that the program actually needs updates. May main concern was that I might be missing out on special features of Lightroom that would work better than Aperture. So far, I haven't seen that to be the case (with the exception of those you have pointed out.Dual 2Ghz G5 - 4GB, Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 2, 2010 9:08 PM (in response to Brentbin)I switched to Lightroom a few months ago however I would strongly consider switching back if the speed issues and constant spinning beach ball get addressed. I am on a current generation MBP so I don't think it is a hardware issue.MacBook Pro 15.4" C2D 2.8GHz 4GB/500GB, Mac OS X (10.5.7), 23" ACD
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 11, 2010 12:27 PM (in response to Brentbin)I think I may have found a partial solution - but an imperfect one as I can't replicate my original steps. This is a tad infuriating, but it might shed some light on the final solution or help people with better skills than me to understand what I did.
When trying to do an import into LR, the Aperture library (Aperture Library.aplibrary) cannot be selected (the 'choose' button being greyed out). But I have somehow forced my way into it so that LR reads the folders within the Aperture library.
You can do this in Finder by right-clicking and selecting 'Show package contents'. This brings up a new window with subfolders, including any folders, projects or albums you've created in Aperture.
As I say, I can now see them in LR for an import, which does import the metadata, but at the same time the subfolders in the Aperture library containing preview and thumbnail images - I'm sure there's a way to eliminate that during the import process: if you can access it.
Because I've already managed to do that, LR now automatically grants me access - so I can't retrace my steps.
There is another - even more painful way of doing this. In the 'import' window, look at the bottom of left nav bar for 'Media'. Under this you'll find 'Photos' and once clicked will give you an option to choose Aperture. Although you can see the same folders as you do in Finder, the import process is painful and laborious as it creates a separate folder for each photo - which contains the original, thumbnail and preview images.
Most bizarrely of all, I was previously able to access my Aperture Library through Bridge - which allowed me to open in LR and PS, and save back to Aperture library. A shuffling of my data onto a new 1TB drive and a LR crash and reinstall put paid to that. One day I'll learn to document the steps I take. One day...
I hope this at least points you in some direction. If I can do it, there's no reason some brighter-minded person will be able to explain to me how it did itiMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Aperture 2.1.4; Lightroom 2.5