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  • 180. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    gaith Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    Hi Grant

    thanks for all the great info, but i honestly think the problem is within A3 itself and not only from the library migration.

    From my own testing, I end up with a hanging system and the endless 'processing library...' no matter which library i use: fresh or migrated from A2.

    I went through all the uninstall/reinstall steps and created a new fresh/empty library, and within a few hours of working/importing images (around 300), I ended up on square zero again.

    I think the internal preview generation process leaks memory, hogging the virtual memory and then the harddrive....

    needless to say that I am speaking out of my * since I have been totally lost here (which doesn't happen much).... this out of a person that worked at apple for several years....
  • 181. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    Grant Symon Level 2 Level 2 (240 points)
    Gaith,

    I do agree that there is a problem with Aperture3, but I also think that this problem (memory leak?) is severely aggravated by problems with Aperture2.

    It would seem from what some people have said here, that switching to 32bit mode, may solve this Aperture3 problem. But as we have seen, it hasn't worked for everyone which suggests there is more than one issue involved.

    Certainly in my case, I was able to circumvent the problems I had with my initial 'upgrade', but doing incremental Project imports and that is when I discovered these 'phantom' files, the removal of which appeared to solve my problems.
  • 182. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    gaith Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    Grant

    I haven't tried your approach..... i will definitely try isolating 'phantom' files later on today as you describe and see if it solves my A3 issues on A2 libraries..... but these files are not part of my fresh libraries, which suggests there might be several issues going on at the same time.
  • 183. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    robogobo Level 2 Level 2 (290 points)
    I couldn't agree more. Since this is a x.0 release, it's ALWAYS best to wait if your livelihood depends on it. At the very least, backup everything to the point where you're sure you can go back to your previous working state. There will ALWAYS be potential bugs in a x.0 release. Always.
  • 184. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    glaurent Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    library update went fine for me (13200 photos, mostly raw), but it did take a looong time - on a 2x4 core mac pro with 6Gb of RAM : about 12 hours I think (I left it running during the night).

    Note that I only work with referenced masters.

    The only problem are on TIFF files generated by HydraHDR, which now look like garbage.
  • 185. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    Grant Symon Level 2 Level 2 (240 points)
    My feeling so far is that there are at least 2 issues. The 64bit memory leak or whatever it is and the corrupted 'phantom' files, which I definitely had. It would be a heck of a coincidence if my only problem importing via projects, which happened in the Project where I had these 'phantom' files, was actually due to the 64bit thing. It could have been, but I doubt it.
  • 186. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    Michael Kay Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    Having had Aperture 3 crash three times during the updating of my photo library as I updated from A2 to A3, I checked out these forums to find a lot of people having the same problem. Hopefully I have found a solution - well it worked for me anyway:

    Switch off your screensaver (System Preferences/Desktop & Screen Saver/Set to Flurry and set to never)
    Switch Sleep off (System Preferences/Energy Saver/Set Computer Sleep AND Display Sleep to never)

    Restart Computer
    Repair Permissions and Verify HD using Disk Utility - always a sensible precaution, but no problems found

    Open Aperture holding down the CMD and Option keys - this opens Aperture Library First Aid
    Select Repair Database and Repair it (only took about 1 minute)
    As soon as Aperture opens, open Preferences and deselect 'Enable Faces'
    Then open the Activity window straight away (Window/Show Activity)
    Aperture then spent just over an hour 'Processing Photos' (mine had 148 tasks here)
    Don't do anything whilst it does this - just walk away!

    When it had finished (Activity window empty), I closed the Activity Window and Quit Aperture
    Open Aperture again holding down the CMD and Option keys
    Repair the Database again (might not be necessary but can't do any harm)
    Quit Aperture
    Open it again holding down the CMD and Option keys
    Select Repair permissions from the First Aid menu and do this
    When Aperture opens again, open the Activity window
    Open preferences and select 'Enable Faces'
    The Activity window show the progress - it took about 2 hours for 3000 photos
    Once this had finished, I Quit Aperture and opened it again doing another Database repair (perhaps not necessary but still) and all was well.

    Reset your Screen Saver and Sleep preferences.

    The problem seems to me to be that Aperture uses the whole of the available RAM, not even leaving enough for the screensaver/mouse and this is very processor intensive - though once the library is updated, all should be fine after this!

    I hope!

    Note: DO NOT try and do anything else whilst these processes are running, except reading a newspaper, making a coffee, etc.

    Message was edited by: Michael Kay
  • 187. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    wayneker Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I also don't know if you guys realize this. . . Before the library update, Aperture did have a warning saying that the process might take days. . . Maybe it's just that and we are just impatient?
  • 188. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    Grant Symon Level 2 Level 2 (240 points)
    I tried for about 12 hours before giving up. When I did it Project by Project it took about 4 hours

    So if it does take days and work, I don't believe that it is because everything has gone smoothly and it just takes a long time. I think there is clearly a problem. However I can understand it taking days for someone who has a library of quarter of a million images ... and I'm sure there are those that do. Mine is much smaller, at just under 100gb.
  • 189. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    shellbell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    First, let me say it was a horrible upgrade but once the processing ended it was like a curtain parted and Aperture 3 is running super!! I'm using 2 gig ram. Keep the faith. Here are a few pointers that helped:
    I upgraded via disk and found the "get info" appeared to be the Aperture 2 info (although it showed Aperture 3 install) and not 32-bit checkbox. Open Aperture 3 and got to Edit with Nik or another plug-in. Aperture 3 will show the plug-ins are 32-bit. Aperture 3 warns you the plug-in is 32-bit and you must close and reopen in 32-bit to use plug-in. It closes and reopens in 32-bit on its own. It then opens the plug-in. I cancel the plug-in and Aperture 3 will stay in 32-Bit mode until you close it again. This did help with speeding up the "processing". I did a couple of other things that helped with the install. I opened the View-show activity box and left it open. It showed the queue for processing and I was able to see the slow, slow process. Also I left open the "Force Quit" box (optioncommandesc). I was able to see that Aperture was moving in and out of "not responding". When it did crash or hang up and I had to actually "force quit" I noticed I did not lose any of the processing. In other words if I had 60 items to process and it crashed at item 41, I reopened and it would show 19 items to process. My library has only about 5,000 images but it was hard to get it to respond long enough to open other windows. I created another library and place 3 images in it. I used that one to open the plug-ins and then switched to my main library to continue the "processing". Hope this helps.
  • 190. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    Anthony Brien Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    wayneker wrote:
    I also don't know if you guys realize this. . . Before the library update, Aperture did have a warning saying that the process might take days. . . Maybe it's just that and we are just impatient?


    Patience has nothing to do with it. People are getting crashes and out of memory issues while upgrading their libraries. A lot of us have been extremely patient by spending days manually importing our old libraries project by project to work around these still unfixed issues with AP3. And once you actually manage to get Aperture running, these issues seem to come back for many people, regardless of the library size.
  • 191. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    2Things@Once Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    In reading (and rereading) through this thread while I wait and wait for the processing of my final four items (days...grrrrr) it seems that switching to 32-bit might be the key to seeing the upgrade complete in my lifetime.

    However, I don't seem to have the 32-bit option to check when I right-click or get info on the A3 program icon. Does this have anything to do with the fact that I have a 2-1/2 year old MacBook Pro? Anything I can do?
  • 192. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    demoneyes Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)
    2Things@Once wrote:
    In reading (and rereading) through this thread while I wait and wait for the processing of my final four items (days...grrrrr) it seems that switching to 32-bit might be the key to seeing the upgrade complete in my lifetime.

    However, I don't seem to have the 32-bit option to check when I right-click or get info on the A3 program icon. Does this have anything to do with the fact that I have a 2-1/2 year old MacBook Pro? Anything I can do?



    If you have a first generation MBP with the Core Duo (not the Core 2 Duo) then you are already running in 32-bit mode. They are not 64-bit capable.
  • 193. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    DLScreative Level 4 Level 4 (1,595 points)
    Anthony Brien wrote:
    Patience has nothing to do with it.


    I already responded to this refrain here:

    http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=11077284#11077284
  • 194. Re: Aperture 3 hanging... and hanging... and chewing...
    Dan Donovan Level 2 Level 2 (225 points)
    I've had the same problem. However, I think I solved it. Instead of following Aperture 3's lead and processing my old library upon starting AP3 for the first time, I created a new library with AP3 and then imported my AP2 library into it (File>Import>Library/Project). I have 155,000 master files and it has been running for 8 hours, with half of it being done so far. I only made it 3% of the way using the previous method.
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