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iChat, typical issue regarding users not showing up

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  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (66,840 points)
    It may be related to the Mobile Forwarding issue in this thread http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11177341#11177341



    7:32 PM Friday; March 5, 2010

    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
    G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)  MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.x) , Mac OS X (10.6.1), "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Really
  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (66,840 points)
    Hi,

    I say Ahhh !, all becomes clear.

    Great detective work.

    Back in the days of iChat 2 you could add your Own Screen name to the Buddy list.
    (The days on one Screen Name and one Buddy List at a time logged in and only to AIM).
    Some people made use of this and could Text Chat to their Home Computer from Work, say, and let their partners know when they were coming home.

    In iChat 3 this changed but it was not clear how it was done.
    I have never added second or third Screen Names to my own Address Card.
    I just keep iChat with second and third screen names so I did not recognise the issue as I had not experienced it.

    Notes:

    AIM calls Buddies "Food"
    Food is kept is Feedbags.
    Feedbags are the lists we have of Buddies an their Screen Names and their Real Names.

    On the whole the AIM system works on two main Feedbags. The Screen Name one at AIM and your Address Book which links the Display of First Name last Name stuff.
    See this section http://www.ralphjohns.co.uk/page13.html#feedbag

    Feedbag Error 10 is when you try to Add a Buddy in iChat adding the First Name, Last Name info in to the Text fields and iChat then checks the Address Book to Add them there but the Address Book stops you from adding a Contact twice (you have to add a number/Character if you happen to know two people called John Smith)

    iChat 4 and 5 don't report Feedbag Error 10 they just don't add the Buddy to the Address Book or to iChat.



    9:32 PM Saturday; March 6, 2010

    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"

    Message was edited by: Ralph Johns (UK)
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  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (66,840 points)
    Hi,

    When I tried yesterday I could not get a Second screen name to show in the first Buddy list if it was added the the Address Book.

    Today I added two extra Screen Names to my own card in the Address Book then tried to add Upper case letters here and there.

    I had no problem with this.
    I still can not add my main Screen Name to my Main Buddy list but the other two can be added to the Buddy list.

    I noticed something else as well which my be pertinent.
    One of the Screen Names has a Address Card all of it's own and My Card will override that second card in identifying that Screen Name in the Buddy List.
    I have the Buddy List set to display My Name (rather than Handle) at the top of the Buddy List and all show as the Name in the Buddy List and I have to mouse over them to make sure they are the Screen Name I think they are.

    Yesterday I was so sure it was as I suggested an issue about adding yourself to your Own Buddy List but today's test prove that this is not so.

    I had no differences when I changed anything to upper case in the Screen Name in the Address Book at all.

    I am on Leopard (10.5.8) on the computer I tested this on.



    8:30 PM Sunday; March 7, 2010

    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
    G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)  MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.x) , Mac OS X (10.6.1), "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Really
  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (66,840 points)
    Hi,

    I will test again in Snow Leopard tomorrow.



    9:21 PM Sunday; March 7, 2010

    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
    G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)  MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.x) , Mac OS X (10.6.1), "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Really
  • arilo76 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi i am not to sure if i am having the same issue here, any way i have 2 accounts a mac.com and me.com.

    I have a friend which is in both accounts in my Buddies and in one he is on line ( mac.com) and in the other is off line (me.com).

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks
    Mac OS X (10.6.2)
  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (66,840 points)
    Hi,

    In Snow Leopard I added my second and third Screen Names to my My Card in the Address Book.

    I added the third Screen Name to the Buddy List only to realise that it was already there linked to another Address Card

    In Snow Leopard the My Card does not seem to override any other card, like in did in Leopard.

    I deleted the screen Name from the second Address Card.
    This did change my Buddy List display of this Screen Name from the "Real Name" used on the second Card to the "Real Name" on the My Card.

    I then went to the iChat View Menu and changed the display to show Screen Names (Handles).

    The third Screen Name showed as it should.

    I then went back to the My Address Card and changed some letters in the third Screen Name and it remained in the Buddy list.

    Changing things back to the way they were as to Screen Names and Address Cards, I then tried changing to using Upper case characters in that Address Card for the Screen Name, and again it remained in the Buddy List.

    Either I have missed a step, misunderstood what was being said or I can not replicate this issue.



    8:58 PM Monday; March 8, 2010

    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
    G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)  MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.x) , Mac OS X (10.6.1), "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Really
  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (66,840 points)
    Hi,

    If you have two Screen Names and therefore two Buddy Lists and have added a Buddy to both of those Buddy Lists then there are several possibles:-

    1) You entered both manually and mistyped one.
    2a) The Buddy only knows of one of your Screen Names and has Allow Buddy List Only set in iChat menu > Preferences > Accounts > Security so that only one of your Screen Names can "See" him as On-line
    2b) You Buddy has your Second Screen Name Blocked.
    3a) Linked to above but you have not added his second name to the Allow Specific People at you end.
    3b) You have this second Screen Name blocked.

    Basically it's about the settings in iChat > Preferences > Accounts > Security across both computers or a misspelling



    9:05 PM Monday; March 8, 2010

    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
    G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)  MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.x) , Mac OS X (10.6.1), "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Really
  • arilo76 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Wow that was a quick reply!!

    Thanks for your info i check settings as you suggested in answer to the points:
    1 I entered both using add a buddy
    2a) i have to check with my mate regarding this
    2b) i have to check with my mate regarding this
    3a) all is allowed and the Security setting are both the same
    3b) i quite sure nothing is blocked form my end.

    Thanks for your help i will keep you in the loop and let you know thanks
    Mac OS X (10.6.2)
  • arilo76 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    You were bang on my friend block me by mistake.

    Thanks for your suggestion!
    Mac OS X (10.6.2)

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