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  • Level 6 Level 6 (11,035 points)
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    Apr 12, 2010 8:43 AM (in response to Fred Tedsen2)
    @Fred Tedsen2

    You are correct there are no apps that use greater than the current 39 rate I'm getting on the iPad on any N network. Of course, any web browsing and video streaming would benefit from faster loads. I suppose the biggest issue would be on things like Netflix and ABC where the speed could result in "instant" start to video streams.

    But the main issue is that Apple advertised N, which, even with Apple's one antenna solution, should have a data rate of 65. So why the slower speed?

    If the posted article is correct in saying they took N down from the approximately 150 to 160 I see in data rate for the Mac's and AppleTV's in the house to 65 (really 39) for battery, let us know.
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    Apr 12, 2010 8:54 AM (in response to ckiggins314)
    ckiggins314, I think speed tests and download performance are interesting issues. I get 25MB on my wired desktop PC and about 18-20MB on PCs receiving wifi. I downloaded the speedtest.net app to my iPad and it shows that I get 15MB. I don't know if the the dslreports.com iPhone browser speed test is supposed to used on the iPad or is considered to be reliable, but using it I get about 3MB. Using the dslreports.com test on my iPhone, I get about 1.5MB.

    Here's where I'm coming from, and here's my experience: I really like my iPad, and don't have any axe to grind with Apple or anybody else. However, regardless of any speed test result and regardless of all this router mumbo jumbo, there is no way on earth that web pages download as fast on the iPad as they do on my wifi computers. The 15MB that I get from the speedtest.net app is way out of whack with reality. For example, NYTimes.com downloads on my wifi connected laptop essentially instantly, like changing the channel on a TV. The same web page takes about 10 seconds to download on my iPad. This despite the 15MB result from the speedtest.net app. I think the speedtest.net app is simply wrong, even though I've always heard that you don't get false positives from any speed test; or, the speedtest.net app is measuring something that isn't relevant to the speed of web browsing. In my non-techie view, the dslreports.com test results are a more meaningful and accurate measurement.

    In other words, the speed of web browsing on the iPad is a lot closer to the speeds you get on a smart phone rather than the speeds you get on a wifi computer. I would be interested to know whether other iPad users have the same experience, or if I'm missing something.
  • dstracey Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 12, 2010 9:29 AM (in response to schnauzer777)
    Just wanted to add my name to the list of "weak" wifi users.

    Time capsule. Wireless N weak beyond 30ft Wireless G beyong 30ft weak (1 Bar)

    MyWi on iphone beyond 10ft 1 bar weak.

    Really needs to be addressed without STRONG wifi then the product is a fail. I am so suprised it was released with this issue - the development team must have been aware of it.
    Macbook Air 1.6, Mac OS X (10.5.2), Iphone
  • cratkins82 Calculating status...
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    Apr 12, 2010 9:44 AM (in response to Kindiboy)
    {quote:title=Kindiboy wrote:}
    would you try plug it to the wall and test. it worked with me.{quote}


    Tried plugging it in when I had one bar on campus and....no change. My iPhone in the same spot had full bars. So im not sure it's a power problem. Frustrating. Going to call tech support and open a ticket.
    iPad 32GB, iPhone OS 3.1
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    Apr 12, 2010 10:11 AM (in response to Dr. JB)
    Another site besides ABC that also work well practically flawlessly is CBS. ABC shows like "V" are high quality, and CBS doesn't have that much quality but I was watching Letterman and it looks good enough. I wonder why I am still having problems with MSNBC and YouTube though....The signal always shows the three bars as if the signal had the same strength, but when I click on the picture to see how much video is being queued, it gets a bit stuck, the same happens also with movie trailers at IMBD.

    Now, my internet service is quite basic, so it's speed is only 1 megabyte download and .60 upload, but I still have lightning fast speed with my iPAD just browsing the internet, and as I have mentioned before, watching ABC shows with their app designed for the iPAD, except when I try watching YouTube and other sites like IMBD for movie trailers.
    iPad, Other OS
  • powerguru Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Apr 12, 2010 10:19 AM (in response to Merged Content 1)
    Andrew,
    I understand your frustration I am in the same boat. And what I gave you as a solution is hardly acceptable it is just a temporary work around. Because iPad is a N device and it should work with any N router seamlessly. But if you see theoritically your speed of the Internet on the device is not going to be better than what G gives you,IMHO.
    Hopefully apple sends out a firmware update. But to tell you the truth my MacBook( which is a N) is also having problems connecting to N. I guess there was a update recently available for my MacBook which I avoided and i did it finally 3-4 days back don't know if that messed up my MacBook too.

    HTH
  • joeuu Level 5 Level 5 (5,075 points)
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    Apr 12, 2010 12:09 PM (in response to Enterpriser1701)
    Ooops.

    Joe


    Message was edited by: joeuu
    17"MBP 5,2 2.8gHz 500gB 4gB 10.6.3; 13" MBP 5,5 2.26gHz 150gB 2gB 10.6.3;iPad, Time Capsule. Newton in the closet. SE 30 in the Garage.
  • lundejd Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 12, 2010 1:53 PM (in response to Dr. JB)
    More testing that might help others. I have a Cisco E3000 (Linksys) with the following settings:

    2.4GHz
    Wireless-N Only
    SSID (named differently than the 5GHz SSID)
    Channel Width: 20MHz only
    Channel: 8 - 2.447 GHz

    If I set Channel Width to auto, or channel to auto, it was a crap shoot for signal strength. I started selecting separate channels and found that 8 performs the best at my house. *This tells me that some routers can be tweaked for better signal strength.*

    Now with all this set I was getting about 70% signal (using a signal meter) strength 2 floors up in my computer room. (2 iPad bars)

    I took a couple 50' network cables home and moved my router from the corner of my basement where the ISP link comes in and positioned it in the middle of the room. *This tells me that router positioning is important.*

    Now I'm getting 100% signal strength, 3 bars on the iPad.

    (next I'll test with 5GHz to see if I can get an improvement)

    P.S. I have a second older Linksys with wireless turned on to defaults. At best I get one bar on iPad and the signal even disappears once in a while. I will tweak that one later just to test.

    Most here seem willing and able to try different things. That is encouraging. I feel sorry for those that just give up and hand in their devices. There may be issues, but I have to believe with a little effort some can see improvement like I did. The thing I quickly realized is that the iPad is so mobile that I started stretching my wireless network past where I ever really tested before.

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    Macbook, Mac OS X (10.6)
  • UG64 Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)
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    Apr 12, 2010 6:02 PM (in response to Dr. JB)
    What I have observed, is on my sister's open WRT54G, my iPad works great.  I will go in and out of sleep, switch apps with out a hitch, but at work on my WRVS4400N the iPad has trouble establishing a link after coming out of sleep.  

    My work router is using WPA2 AES in a mildly crowed neighborhood, the iPad will only see two WAPs, where my Palm TX will see six.  I tried the apple solution, and switched the wireless to the 802.11g protocol, and when the iPad was awaken from sleep Safari could not open the page because the server stopped responding message came up.  

    My only solution at work is to turn wi-fi off and then on again, which will re-establish the connection.  Lame.
    iPad, Posted from the iPad.
  • tntoofore Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Apr 12, 2010 6:07 PM (in response to Dr. JB)
    Please folks, some of you get out of the home environment and give us some indication of how things work in the outside world. I'm really interested in how useful this device (3g on order)is going to be in travel, or am I going to be better off taking my touch on the trip planned shortly after receiving my Ipad? It's bad enough to be losing the world clock, stock, and weather apps that have been so good for travel without having serious WiFi problems as well.
    imac, Mac OS X (10.6.3), Ipodtouch; Ipad on order
  • psky Calculating status...
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    Apr 12, 2010 6:53 PM (in response to tntoofore)
    I have the Ipad 3g and I couldn't be more disappointed with its performance for travel. I'm currently on an around the world trip. I was traveling from South America to SE Asia and only had 2 days in the U.S. I specifically planned my trip so I would be there on Saturday to get an Ipad. Well, I'm now in SE Asia and I have only been able to get internet access on my Ipad once. All of the places that I've stayed have internet access but you have to log on. The Ipad freezes every time on the log on page. I've tried everything I could think of but nothing has worked. It's driving me crazy.

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  • Level 6 Level 6 (11,035 points)
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    Apr 12, 2010 7:12 PM (in response to psky)
    Received my iPad today. Connection is excellent throughout the house. I have a net gear b/g router, set to g only. Channel 11. Get a solid 3 bars all the the time with 14 Mbs download speed. In addition, I have mobile hot spot on my palm pre through verizon and get download speeds of 400 Kbs, which is normal for verizon in my part of the woods. Download speeds on the iPad match my MacBook. I'm quite happy!
    Aluminum MacBook 2.0, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
  • jdwhrc Calculating status...
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    Apr 12, 2010 7:45 PM (in response to Dr. JB)
    I received my iPad on April 3rd. It loaded up nice and sweet. Connected to the one year old Verizon FIOS router without issue. But, it drops the connection EVERY time it come out of sleep mode. I tried adding the Mac address to the router as was suggested and it still drops. My friend received his iPad the same day and he has the same FIOS router but he has no network issue. Apple, you have an amazing product and I has vowed to has my next computer or laptop be an Apple. But first you need to fix this network issue. I still have faith that you will. Let your customer service issue match your product quality here.
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  • EdGee1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 12, 2010 7:55 PM (in response to powerguru)
    iPad will get 4.0 in the fall... there's nothing to prevent them from releasing interim bug fixes as they did with the original iPhone. At least we can all hope...
    Toshiba Satellite P105, Windows XP, iPod 5G, iPod Nano, iPhone 16GB
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    Apr 12, 2010 8:39 PM (in response to Dr. JB)
    I am having IPad wifi problems. So much so that I had to post this response using my Macbook Pro. I have had the wifi drop 12 times in 3 hours and over 100 times since I bought it. I have been able to bring the wifi back by lowering that raising the screen brightness, I even posted a youtube video on my findings. But this is getting frustrating. Sorry Steve I am returning my Ipad, its not ready for prime time. By the way I have been using Macs since 1984 and yes I liked the Newton but the IPad has me ******. For reference my 13 in Macbook Pro, 27 iMac, IPhone 3GS, Dell 1510 and Dell Mini 9 all have no wifi problems.
    Macbook Pro 13, Mac OS X (10.6.3)
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