11 Replies Latest reply: Jun 7, 2010 2:38 PM by Jamie123
Jamie123 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Movies of my kids, ie precious - as precious as and interlocked with my relationship with the wife and her in laws (less precious).

I have iphoto '09, snow leopard, and all movies imported from my digital camera before 30 Apr '08 have gone from iphoto. The thumbnail is there, and in information it will have 88mg or whatever, all in MPEG1 format, and none play when I double click them. They do after this date, with the same file format.

So... I installed Perian, no banana, right click the thumbnail to 'show file' and nothing is there. They are not in the originals folder that I can see. I can go back a way in time machine but can't access the files to see if the movies are there. Going back in time in iphoto doesn't work 'cos you can't play anything anyhow. How come there is the info with the thumbnail in iphoto but there appears to be no movie. How can I see if it is time machine, if so how do I recover it? Peeease help!

If these are lost, the rhetorical question deserving only mirth is how do I recover the relationship (just the wife would do!)

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.3), iphoto '09, Sony Cybershot Digi camera
  • 1. Re: Movies lost. Thumbnail there but no movie, Arrrrh!!!
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,875 points)
    You need to restore the Library from TM to another location, (not overwriting your existing one) to see of the videos are still available.

    Regards

    TD
  • 2. Re: Movies lost. Thumbnail there but no movie, Arrrrh!!!
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,720 points)
    Or you can restore the library to the same location as your current library without overwriting the current library by selecting the option "Keep Both". Just make sure you have sufficient free space on your hard drive to accommodate a second library. Don't end up in a situation with less than about 5 GB free space.




    OT
  • 3. Re: Movies lost. Thumbnail there but no movie, Arrrrh!!!
    Jamie123 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks Terrance and old Toad, oldest back up is 2 Sept 09 so hope that they are there. I get a different set of options to the screen shot you provided and just want to make sure I do the right thing, I assume that I choose 'restore'?;

    Hang on, I can't paste the screen shot. The dialogue I get says;

    Restore entire library? Files will be copied back to your iphoto library and your library will be replaced with an older backed up version. Any photos imported since the backup will be reimported.
    (Buttons) cancel...restore without import....restore

    By the way I have copied my current iphoto library (44gb) to my separate desktop hard drive (used for back ups, 1 terabyte).
  • 4. Re: Movies lost. Thumbnail there but no movie, Arrrrh!!!
    MadisonP Level 5 Level 5 (4,485 points)
    Hello Jaime,

    I expect you are getting this dialogue:


    As long as you've copied your library to an alternate location I would say its ok to choose "Restore". If you don't like the results you can always restore your backup copy.

    If this does not resolve the issue try searching your computer for movies. Do this by going to Finder and choosing File > Find. In the top of the window you will see "Kind" and "Any". Change the "Any" to movies to locate all movies on your computer. If you find the movies you are looking for click on one of them and notice the location at the very bottom of the screen. If it doesn't say iPhoto Library in the location then perhaps someone has been moving files. You could drag all these files to a central location (like a newly created folder on the desktop) and then add them back to iPhoto. The process of locating files is described here: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1995


    Do not move images / movies that are located in the iPhoto Library. Doing so will damage the references to these files in iPhoto.

    Hope that helps
  • 5. Re: Movies lost. Thumbnail there but no movie, Arrrrh!!!
    MadisonP Level 5 Level 5 (4,485 points)
    Broke my own link there :P
  • 6. Re: Movies lost. Thumbnail there but no movie, Arrrrh!!!
    Jamie123 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks for your advice, I choose restore and it re imported and did all that it should, but again the thumbnails are there but not the movies. I did the find in finder as you suggested and the movies aren't in the results.

    I'm knackered aren't I?
  • 7. Re: Movies lost. Thumbnail there but no movie, Arrrrh!!!
    Jamie123 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Footnote, I pulled out an old external hard drive, and restored the iphoto library from Dec '09, same issue. The thumbnails are there showing large file sizes but they won't play, aren't apparent using 'show file' and I can't find them in finder.

    How is it that i photo has the thumbnail and information but the content of the file is not there. This is really unfair!
  • 8. Re: Movies lost. Thumbnail there but no movie, Arrrrh!!!
    MadisonP Level 5 Level 5 (4,485 points)
    Hey Jaime,

    95% of the time this means the Movies were moved after they were imported. Someone adds pictures or movies to iPhoto. Then using the Finder (File > Find or the All Images option in the side bar) pulls the movies or images out to do something with them (delete them thinking they were duplicates or just moving them around). iPhoto doesn't know you are moving it's files around so the next time it opens up it still shows the thumbnail it created for your movie. But when you double-click, it can't find the original item so it does nothing or gives you the exclamation point.

    Perhaps someone had tinkered (knowingly or unknowingly) with the Advanced settings and set iPhoto to not copy items into it's library? Thus leaving the real movies on the camera (or wherever they came from).

    The only thing I can suggest is think very carefully about these movies. Have they EVER worked in iPhoto? If they did, restore to a point in the past when you know with 100% confidence that they were working. See what you get. If they still do not work and you are choosing the restored library to look at, then my conclusion would be that they were in fact not put into iPhoto. The Advanced option to copy items into iPhoto was turned off at the time of the import of the movies.
  • 9. Re: Movies lost. Thumbnail there but no movie, Arrrrh!!!
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,720 points)
    Give the following a try:

    1 - download Find Any File.

    2 - do a search for ".mov" and any other movie extension that you might have. Find Any File will search every possible folder on the hard drive including library packages.


    Click to view full size


    It will find every .mov file on the hard drive, those in the system, applications, etc. This might give you some insight as to what and where the movies are or are not.
  • 10. Re: Movies lost. Thumbnail there but no movie, Arrrrh!!!
    Jamie123 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks old toad and MadisonP. They have worked in iphoto so they were there. Find any file doesn't find them. I'm thinking that I must have, in May '08 while on holiday, fiddled with the originals. I made kid movies by combining a lot of short clips. The most recent clip I can't play is April '08, so that fits the time line.

    I'll see what my old back ups hold, but pretty well have solved this wee forensic puzzle. Thanks to you all, when fiddling with the originals I should have copied out the stuff I wanted and let that sleeping dog stay fast asleep!!

    Thanks again.
  • 11. Re: Movies lost. Thumbnail there but no movie, Arrrrh!!!
    Jamie123 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    NOTE TO ALL AND SELF; LEAVE THE IPHOTO FILES ALONE!!