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iOs4 upgrade, Now car stereo doesnt work with iphone

236936 Views 539 Replies Latest reply: Feb 21, 2012 9:32 AM by KiltedTim RSS
  • Colin_Tokyo Calculating status...
    It is staggering how this can slip through -- I've spent thousands of dollars on car stereo equipment and now it simply doesn't work anymore. This is ludicrous -- is there any way to downgrade?
    Dell XPS, Windows 7
  • iScars Calculating status...
    Alpine X100. No sound!
    SonyVaio FW, iOS 4
  • obeythelaw2006 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
    This is freakin ridiculous!! Since upgrading to 4.0 I now get "This accessory is not supported, blah blah" on my 2010 BMW!! It looks to be charging but now I cannot play the ipod music through the speakers! It's crazy. Apple better get a fix out asap! And it's apple that has to do the fix, not BMW!
    Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
  • rrauenza Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Just got off the phone with Apple support.

    I'm seriously annoyed. After talking to a nice support engineer, I was handed off to a "senior" one who is the one trained to give bad news.

    I was basically told that they don't make/design the iphone to work with car stereos and that it is the car stereo manufacturer's problem -- even though Apple is the one who updated the APIs and broke something.

    And I can't downgrade and they can't swap the phone for one with 3.x on it because all new phones only have 4.

    This is SOOOO annoying.

    Sony says, sorry, this is the list of phones we support (which of course doesn't include the 4.0)

    I have a Sony CDX-GT700HD

    If you're unhappy, call Apple support -- I don't think they pay much attention to the discussion forum.
    3GS, iOS 4
  • blur35mm Calculating status...
    2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee stock stereo has lots of issues with iPod now after upgrading iPhone to iOS 4 last night. Won't select new albums, won't select albums by artist and keeps playing the same track over and over. In addition the response time is all screwy as the scrolling through list of songs is very slow AND if you press button to select song it skips back a few items in the list and selects that. Neither stereo nor steering wheel controls operate as expected. Worked flawlessly yesterday before upgrading to iOS 4. Connects via glove compartment iPod/iPhone connector.

    Apple has dropped the ball on this hopefully they fix it soon.

    Note that Bluetooth through UConnect still seems to work just fine.
    iPhone 3GS, iOS 4
  • eeek5127 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
    Yes, my Bluetooth works fine. However, I do not (and never have) got artist names, album, song title or album art over Bluetooth (and never will.) So, my only option for those features are from the dock port. Basically, millions of users, who are using thousands of different types of car stereos, radios and head units, who had this functionality just yesterday, now need to go buy another car stereo? That is a poor move.

    Message was edited by: eeek5127
    ColecoVision, Other OS, in tandem with a CoCo 64
  • Colin_Tokyo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I was basically told that they don't make/design the iphone to work with car stereos and that it is the car stereo manufacturer's problem -- even though Apple is the one who updated the APIs and broke something.


    That's enough to make me swear off Apple for my next phone purchase. You don't *take away features* and then blame someone else. I'm wondering if there are class action openings here.
    Dell XPS, Windows 7
  • Amp300 Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
    This may have been a deliberate move on the part of Apple to block accessories that are not licensed through the Apple MFi Program (i.e. where the manufacturer decided not to pay the license fee to Apple).

    http://developer.apple.com/programs/mfi/

    "The Made for iPod, Made for iPhone, and Made for iPad logos mean that an electronic accessory has been designed to connect specifically to iPod, iPhone, or iPad and has been certified by the developer to meet Apple performance standards."

    For example, the website for my Honda Fit does not contain a MFi logo and actually states:

    http://automobiles.honda.com/fit/audio.aspx

    "The USB Audio Interface is used for direct connection to and control of some current digital audio players and other USB devices that contain MP3, WMA or AAC music files. Some USB devices with security software and digital rights-protected files may not work. Please see your Honda dealer for details."

    That being said and regardless of whether Apple is legally "in the right", my iPhone 3GS worked with my Honda for a year before the iOS 4 update and I think it's reasonable for me to assume it would continue to function in the same manner after the iOS 4 update.

    Message was edited by Amp300 on 06/22/2010 to correct spelling and grammar mistakes.

    < Edited by Host >
    MacBook (Unibody - Late 2009), Mac OS X (10.6.4)
  • hexonxonx Level 4 Level 4 (2,440 points)
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    Jun 22, 2010 1:47 PM (in response to Amp300)
    The box or owners manual also states that the iPhone/iPod must have a certain firmware version to work with the stereo. I know mine did two years ago when I bought it. Anything other than that version is taking a chance. No one can guarantee that a stereo will work beyond the current version that out when the stereo was manufactured.

    My stereo works with my iPod classic but nowehere on the box was a promise that it would work with iPhone. When I connect it to the stereo, it plays but doesn't charge. Does that mean Apple is to blame again?
    2009 MacBook Pro - 20" Intel iMac - white 32GB iPhone, Mac OS X (10.6)
  • Dave_K. Level 3 Level 3 (600 points)
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    Jun 22, 2010 1:48 PM (in response to Amp300)
    Amp300 wrote:
    This may have been a deliberate move on the part of Apple to block accessories that are not licensed through the Apple MFi Program (i.e. where the manufacturer decided not to pay the license fee to Apple).

    http://developer.apple.com/programs/mfi/

    "The Made for iPod, Made for iPhone, and Made for iPad logos mean that an electronic accessory has been designed to connect specifically to iPod, iPhone, or iPad and has been certified by the developer to meet Apple performance standards."



    Interesting. That might explain why my Sony CDX-GT630UI car stereo works fine with iOS4 and my iPhone 3GS. It has the "Made for iPhone" MFi logos on the unit, box, and manuals. Presumably Sony paid for this? I don't know, but it's a guess.

    Dave
    iMac 24" Core 2 Extreme, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • dpg50000 Calculating status...
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    Jun 22, 2010 1:53 PM (in response to Amp300)
    My Alpine ida-X305 has the official "Works with iPhone" logo on the box and in the manual. However, after the iOS4 upgrade, scrolling through the album list on the head unit with my iPhone 3G connected is now so slow as to be unusable. Before iOS4, it was lightning quick.

    So... I don't think it's anything to do with the licencing. Apple have just plain screwed up.
    iPhone 3G, iOS 4
  • three days at sea Calculating status...
    {quote:title=hexonxonx wrote:} The box or owners manual also states that the iPhone/iPod must have a certain firmware version to work with the stereo. I know mine did two years ago when I bought it. Anything other than that version is taking a chance. No one can guarantee that a stereo will work beyond the current version that out when the stereo was manufactured. {quote}


    Completely agree with Hexon on this one, guys.

    Also, most of the stereos that you guys are furious about not being able to play the iPhone at all have AUX input jacks that you can plug a 1/8" cable into... sure, it's a workaround, but it's not the end of the world.
    24" iMac 2007, 15" 1.67gHz Powerbook G4, Mac OS X (10.6.4), iMac = 3GB RAM, 320gb HD | PowerBook G4 = 1.5gb RAM
  • blur35mm Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    @Hexonxonx

    Apple can do what they want, but instead of listening to music on my iPhone now in my Jeep (that worked flawlessly yesterday before iOS 4) controlled via steering wheel and everything, I will just use my Sirius Satellite radio thereby rendering Apple useless in my vehicle.

    I didn't have to upgrade to iOS4 but I did. Apple didn't have to break this functionality but they did.

    I as the consumer will make my media choices that suit my environment and taste on the devices that provide the best experience. In my Jeep it will now solely be Sirius. At home, I will use iTunes/Pandora. At work, when I have time, I will use iPhone to listen to music.

    Those long drives to the beach will now just be Sirius instead of relying on my iPhone.

    Hope this makes sense to you.
    iPhone 3GS, iOS 4
  • lannyoswalt Calculating status...
    UGH! same issue in my 09 honda fit! sometimes says unsupported. usually works but scrolling is almost useless. the compatibility between my fit and iphone was one of my favorite features. will this be resolved? bummed.
    iphone, iOS 4
  • InvisibleName Calculating status...
    My iPhone has a similar problem with my Parrot MKi9100... and this states "Works with iPhone", not 'works with iPhone as long as you don't upgrade to iOS4!!'
    Windows 7
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