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iOs4 upgrade, Now car stereo doesnt work with iphone

236873 Views 539 Replies Latest reply: Feb 21, 2012 9:32 AM by KiltedTim RSS
  • hexonxonx Level 4 Level 4 (2,440 points)
    I understand but I also am smart enough to not blame Apple for this because once again, Apple didn't break anything. It is up to the manufacturer to get a firmware update out so that the iPhone will work with the stereo. Will they? Unlikely. Again, it's a money issue. It's not feasible for the manufacturer to have people employed to make the firmware updates when the stereos are obsolete in a years time anyways. New models come out each year and each year they promise it will work with iPhone until the next firmware update and people blame Apple once again.

    Each year since the summer of 2007 and each time there are firmware updates, people come to this forum and complain about how Apple broke their car stereo when it's not even Apples responsibility.

    I was smart enough to know that this was going to be a problem and in choosing my stereo, I bought one that was made for my iPod only. It's been nearly two years and firmware versions later, my iPod still works through my Pioneer deck. If I want to play my iPhone, I connect it to it's AUX jack right on the face of the deck.

    I too have XM radio in my car but I bough the XM Skydock so that I can not only have a holder for my iPhone that charges my phone, but I can play my XM radio right through my iPhone and it plugs right into the AUX jack on my stereo as well. No firmware updates to worry about and I know my phone will always work and my iPod still plays through it's own connector in the glove box.

    If you want to be smart, stop buying stereos that promise that it works with iPhone. They only promise that it will work with the current firmware version and their goal beyond that is to get you to buy a new stereo next year. It's what they do. They rarely do firmware updates.
    2009 MacBook Pro - 20" Intel iMac - white 32GB iPhone, Mac OS X (10.6)
  • dpg50000 Calculating status...
    hexonxonx wrote:
    I understand but I also am smart enough to not blame Apple for this because once again, Apple didn't break anything. It is up to the manufacturer to get a firmware update out so that the iPhone will work with the stereo. Will they? Unlikely. Again, it's a money issue. It's not feasible for the manufacturer to have people employed to make the firmware updates when the stereos are obsolete in a years time anyways. New models come out each year and each year they promise it will work with iPhone until the next firmware update and people blame Apple once again.

    Each year since the summer of 2007 and each time there are firmware updates, people come to this forum and complain about how Apple broke their car stereo when it's not even Apples responsibility.

    I was smart enough to know that this was going to be a problem and in choosing my stereo, I bought one that was made for my iPod only. It's been nearly two years and firmware versions later, my iPod still works through my Pioneer deck. If I want to play my iPhone, I connect it to it's AUX jack right on the face of the deck.

    I too have XM radio in my car but I bough the XM Skydock so that I can not only have a holder for my iPhone that charges my phone, but I can play my XM radio right through my iPhone and it plugs right into the AUX jack on my stereo as well. No firmware updates to worry about and I know my phone will always work and my iPod still plays through it's own connector in the glove box.

    If you want to be smart, stop buying stereos that promise that it works with iPhone. They only promise that it will work with the current firmware version and their goal beyond that is to get you to buy a new stereo next year. It's what they do. They rarely do firmware updates.


    So, do Apple insist that manufacturers stop selling their stereos with the "Works with iPhone" logo as soon as a new iPhone, or firmware, is released? Thought not.

    I don't think it's unreasonable for a consumer to expect that if Apple is running this certification program, it should be a condition that stereo manufacturers either update their firmware or lose their right to use the "Works with iPhone" certification for that device. Some of the affected stereos have been on the market for less than 12 months!
    iMac, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
  • briandigital Calculating status...
    Just posting here for anyone else with an iPod-compatible JVC head unit:

    When my wife attached her 3GS to her JVC KD-AHD59 head unit over USB this morning (first time with iOS4) the unit endlessly showed "READING" and never allowed playback, or play through. She usually listens to Pandora or NPR podcasts via their iPhone app, and not the iPod app.

    When she got home today, I was able to completely recreate what she described (above). Here's how I solved the issue:

    1) Plug the iPhone into the JVC KD-AHD59 head unit through USB.
    2) Restart the iPhone by holding the home and lock buttons, and confirming shutdown with a swipe.
    3) Startup the iPhone by pressing the lock button until the Apple icon appears.

    Once the boot finished, the phone worked just as it had before… iPod app was able to be fully controlled in "head mode" and the other audio apps (Pandora, NPR News) worked in "iPod mode" where the head unit just passes through any audio that comes off the iPod connector, without offering controls.

    Hope this helps someone.

    PS - if you have a JVC unit, and aren't able to get it working, their rep on Twitter offered to help me. Their US rep is @JVC_USA
    iPhone 3GS, iOS 4
  • blur35mm Calculating status...
    My stereo came with my Jeep so I had no say in the matter. Please try walking a mile in someone's shoes before judging them.

    As stated, Apple can do what they want. iOS 4 obviously did something that caused all these car stereos to not function anymore. There appears to be NO backward compatibility which is poor product design. Even a smart engineer can make a firmware backwards compatible with features and functions that previously WORKED.

    By plugging into Skydock or running wires all over the place, you have instantly convoluted what was once an elegant consumer experience in line with the Apple mantra. You can keep the messy experience for all I care, I will just use my Sirius instead of iPhone in my Jeep now. That is my choice as a consumer. Your choice is to keep an old iPod handy...great!

    As I said, it was Apple's choice to break this (or a gross oversight). Maybe Jeep will issue a firmware update for the stereo system, but it is doubtful. Or maybe Apple will identify the problem and resolve it.

    I could care less. I am still gonna buy Apple products and still upgrade to future Apple phones in the future. Even if I don't use their products to listen to music in my Jeep anymore.
    iPhone 3GS, iOS 4
  • InvisibleName Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Your argument doesn't hold water as my Parrot MKi9100 is designed to work with the iPhone, and that now fails to work after the iOS4 upgrade!
    Windows 7
  • eeek5127 Calculating status...
    Wow, if I had to guess, I am willing to bet you argued 'you don't need cut & paste- it is an intuitive operating system.' This isn't about one group of stereos working. This isn't about one brand. It has never been a mass scale of everyone's API suddenly not working. I bought, just a short time ago, a made for iPhone product. I went out of my way to buy that. I wanted Bluetooth but because Apple can't license that, I went with a made for iPhone solution. I want to see the name of the song, artist and album art on the screen I paid for. I'd like to add to, Apple's style isn't 'let's break, not tell our 3rd party vendors and then make them create firmware.' I understand you feel the need to justify whatever you think you know, but to me and many other users who have a legitimate problem, you are providing guesses, speculation and incomplete solutions.
    ColecoVision, Other OS, in tandem with a CoCo 64
  • SBcableguy Calculating status...
    I can confirm this works with the Kenwood MP342U head unit as well. I had the same problem this morning and when I left work I took these steps, all worked well for the 35 minute ride home, let's hope it continues to work tomorrow!
    Dell Studio 17, Windows Vista
  • rshwk Calculating status...
    i thought i already mentioned this on page 2??
    iOS 4
  • dickdaney Calculating status...
    Just tried using my phone on my wife's pioneer avic-x910bt. Doesn't work on that either. I just bought that nav system two months ago specifically for the iPod capability. So between my cheap unit and my wife's high end nav unit, I have $900 worth of junk. I bought the unit for my car just last year, again, specifcallynfornthe iPod capability. At least my wife hasn't put os4 on her ipod touch and there's. Now I hate to go back to using the **** auxiliary cable. This is complete BS!!!!!
    iOS 4
  • Earwigy1990 Calculating status...
    I have an alpine single DIN deck. my music works,but scrolling threw (with the circular spinny thing) i can only scroll one item ever 4 seconds which makes it difficult to pick a song out of 200 songs or an artist out of 300 artists! took me a half hour just to scroll through my "A's"

    Please HELP APPLE my car stero and music is my life!
    Ipod touch 3g, iOS 4
  • guvnar Calculating status...
    Allow me to add my experience to this growing list...
    I have had a Renault Grand Scenic with factory fitted Arkymis stereo specifically to allow me to play the iphone through the USB port.
    It worked fine until OS4 happened!
    Now I cannot get the stereo to recognise it.
    Apple's response was call Renault
    Renault quite rightly said it's not their issue.
    Apple's final response was "TOUGH! Post your thoughts online and wait for a solution..."
    This is NOT the sort of response Steve Jobs would be happy with I'm sure so I'm left without music in my car.
    Many thanks Apple for a service that *****!
    Desktop, Windows 7
  • Torirugby Calculating status...
    Good evening, I'm from Spain and update my iPhone 3G 16 gb for the version 4.0 and installed this morning in my car (Honda Accord 2010 Eur) and lost the ipod function, we have some hope or sell the phone??
    iphone 16 gb, iOS 4
  • dnorth12 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    I have a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser with the stock stereo. In order to run my 3gs iphone/ipod through the stereo I had to purchase a aftermarket adapter. The playback still functions with the new OS/firmware update as it did with the 3.X.X.

    Sorry for all those that are having problems. It really ***** to have spent the money you did for your stereos and now no longer have the capability to play your iphone/ipod through it.

    I do however believe that this is the stereo manufacturers responsibility to update firmware in order to alleviate the problem, just as it is with say HP for printers and scanners when your computer OS is upgraded. The only thing is that it is a lot more difficult to do that seeing as you are not dealing with a computer with easy access such as front loading usb port.

    I wish you all well.
    iMac 2.8, G4 Titanium 400 mhz, the original one!!!, Mac OS X (10.5.7), 4g memory
  • rrauenza Calculating status...
    I really doubt many, if any, of the car stereos listed in this forum have any way to do field firmware updates.

    Backwards compatibility just isn't that hard if you make it a priority. IOS4 obviously didn't.
  • Bogru Calculating status...
    After my update to ios 4, the phone don't work with my Ford sync radio/navigation It wont import my address book and it keep making phone calls to itself... this really *****
    MacBook Pro 17", Mac OS X (10.5.7)
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