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Rotating thru Safari windows with Command-` behaves oddly in v.5.0. Why?

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Tuffy Nicolas Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)
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Jun 23, 2010 2:03 AM
If one has several Safari windows open at once, one can one-by-one "flip through" them by pressing Command-` (backward-accent/tilde), in turn bringing each new window to the front.

In earlier versions of Safari, Command-` behaves in a very predictable and useful way -- it rotated through all the windows unidirectionally if you keep pressing. So, for example, if you had 7 windows open at once, and kept pressing Command-`, you would first see page 1, then page 2, then page 3, etc., up through page 7, and from page 7 then you would keep going "forward" to page 1 again. The windows would go in a cycle. +This would remain constant even if you closed windows once you arrived at them.+

That's the way it always has been (in my memory), and the way I like it.

HOWEVER, I now have Safari 5.0 with 10.6.4, and it behaves differently! And not at all to my liking.

Instead of rotating through all the windows in order, Command-` now "bounces" back and forth in its direction if you perform any action to any window.

So, for example, now if you have 7 pages open, and want to rotate through them all to see what they are, and if unwanted, close them, the following strange and ANNOYING behavior happens as you repeatedly press "Command-`":

If you're on page 1, you then go to page 2, then page 3 -- and then if you close page 3, and press Command-` again, you DON'T go to page 4, but rather back to page 2 again, then page 1, then page 7 -- and if you close page 7, you then bounce back to page 1, page 2, etc.

This also happens if you do ANY action to the top page -- move its location, enter text in a field, close it, whatever.

Why does Safari do this now? It's totally counter-intuitive and incredibly bothersome, because it's no longer a simple task to flip through all open windows and close the unnecessary ones. Instead, one constantly is bouncing backwards and forwards like one is in a rubber room. And I end up feeling like I'm in a rubber room.

Has anyone else noticed this new manner of Safari behavior? And if so (and most importantly): *Is there any way to change it back to the way it used to be?*

This is important to me because I dislike using tabs and I often have several windows open for a project, which I then often want to (mostly) close and start a new project, etc. I takes way too much time and confusion simply trying to see all open windows with the new behavior.
15" MacBookPro, Mac OS X (10.6.3)
  • Carolyn Samit Level 10 Level 10 (84,520 points)
    HI,

    I'm running Safari 5 on v10.6.4 without any problems with Command ` cycling through open windows without Tabs.

    Your profile indicates you are running v10.6.3. If that's the case, click the Apple Menu/Software Updates. If you are running v10.6.4, please click My Settings on the right side of this window and update your forum profile.

    Try some suggestions and see if it makes a difference.

    From the Safari Menu Bar, click Safari / Reset Safari. Select the top 7 buttons and click Reset. Relaunch Safari. If Command ` still doesn't cycle through open windows...

    Go here for trouble shooting 3rd party plugins or input managers which might be causing the problem. Safari: Add-ons may cause Safari to unexpectedly quit or have performance issues

    If third party add-on's aren't the issue, go to the Safari Menu Bar, click Safari/Preferences. Make note of all the preferences under each tab. Quit Safari. Now go to ~/Library/Preferences and move this file com.apple.safari.plist to the Desktop.

    Relaunch Safari and see if that makes a difference. If not, move the .plist file back to the Preferences folder. If Command ~ works now, move that .plist file to the Trash.

    And if you didn't repair disk permissions after the update(s) were installed, it would be beneficial to do that.



    Launch Disk Utility. (Applications/Utilities) Select MacintoshHD in the panel on the left, select the FirstAid tab. Click: Repair Disk Permissions. When it's finished from the Menu Bar, Quit Disk Utility and restart your Mac. If you see a long list of "messages" in the permissions window, it's ok. That can be ignored. As long as you see, "Permissions Repair Complete" when it's finished... you're done. Quit Disk Utility and restart your Mac.

    Hope something helped...





    Carolyn
    Intel iMac 2.66 iPad 32GB iPhone 3GS. MBAir, Mac OS X (10.6.4), QTPro Intuos Tablet Epson Olympus Airport iPods JBL
  • argylerobot Calculating status...
    Tuffy, you're not the only one experiencing this problem; it's been happening to me since I installed Snow Leopard and it drives me CRAZY! I've noticed it happens not only in Safari but also in Chrome and Firefox.

    I did find one other mention of it, here: http://www.betalogue.com/2009/10/14/window-order/

    I REALLY want to find a way to fix this, so I can go back to cycling through my windows in a logical order. Let me know if you find a solution.
    MacBook Pro5, 1, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
  • Saxman Level 2 Level 2 (175 points)
    I've been experiencing this maddening wackiness as well! I've resorted to opening the Windows drop down menu, then one by one, click on each window, in order to see all the tabs that are open. If I use the keyboard shortcut, invariably, it will bounce back & forth between two, three, sometimes maybe four windows, & not go anywhere else. It will break that loop, if you hold the top key, instead of just pressing & releasing it. However, it's not very controllable, but will bust out of the loop, so you at least end up on a new window, & with luck hit some others, before hitting a previous one, it's really a mess....

    It does the same thing when I try to scroll through Stickies as well, it will just bounce between two or three windows....
    iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.4), 20" Dual Core, 2g Ram
  • taerchen Calculating status...
    I've been having trouble with Safari for the past few months, too, but mainly with freezing and crashings. Mine is behaving better now, and I think it was related to the Conduit-based toolbars which various sites and programs want one to install. When I uninstalled them, the spinning balls quit occurring for the most part. However, my Safari 5 behaves just as did my Safari 4 in terms of cycling through windows--they cycle in order and don't "bounce" around as you describe.

    Actually, I like new windows to open behind my current window, too, which is the default behavior in Firefox. However, I think if you tweak the Safari Preferences settings under the Safari Menu (Cmd-,) and click on the Tabs icon, you will find some boxes to check which will address the activity of the page upon opening. You can change your action, I believe. I don't know if this will affect your window cycling toggling problem, which I am not experiencing.
    PM9600/233 (OS 8.6;9.1); G3 white iBook (OS X 10.4.11); G4 MacMini (10.4.10), Performa 6320 (OS 8.1); MacPlus (OS 6.0.8), MacBook (OS X 10.5.8)
  • argylerobot Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Taerchen, it looks like you're running Tiger; I'm fairly certain this issue is specific to Snow Leopard.

    Tuffy: I submitted a bug report and I suggest you do, too. The more people who complain about this, the more likely someone will fix it in an update or the next build.
    MacBook Pro5, 1, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
  • Jeffrey York Calculating status...
    Submitted my feedback too. This is something that is super frustrating. I use that keyboard shortcut so much and got so fed up with it that I went back to Leopard on my home machine.
  • schado Calculating status...
    I was so thrilled to find this topic, hoping that there would be an easy fix! Well, I have the same problem with the windows in Safari 5.0. I much prefer the old version where the windows were cycled through in a predictable way. This new version is crazy. Hard to believe someone thought of it as an improvement. I don't at all believe this is a "bug" like some folks have written in this forum... If there is a way to get Safari 5.0 to behave as it did in the older version in cycling through the windows, I also would love to know...
    iMac 2.8 Core i5, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
  • tomleim Calculating status...
    If you hold down shift while pressing command +` (tilde) I've found you get the old behavior back. But it's a challenge to do this with one hand.
    Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.6)
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