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Aperture 3.03 and Photoshop CS5

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RB851 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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May 15, 2010 4:31 AM
I tried using Photoshop CS5 as my external editor. The resulting PSD file does not display correctly in Aperture but will reopen correctly in Photoshop. What gives?
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  • e2photo Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)
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    May 15, 2010 5:53 AM (in response to RB851)
    have you tried opening as a tiff rather than psd?
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  • windhoveruk Level 2 Level 2 (300 points)
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    May 15, 2010 6:56 AM (in response to RB851)
    Have you 'saved' it in CS5 before exporting back to Aperture.....?

    After editing in CS5 you must save it IN CS5 to preserve your adjustments.... before returning to Aperture. It saves it as a .psd file.

    Regards...... Gerry....

    PS...I'm assuming that CS5 is assigned as your external editor in Aperture > Preferences > Export > External Photo Editor > CS5

    I use CS4 and am assuming the convention is the same.... HTH

    Message was edited by: windhoveruk

    Message was edited by: windhoveruk
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  • e2photo Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)
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    May 15, 2010 6:53 PM (in response to windhoveruk)
    My understanding is closing a file in CS when it was opened thru the external editor, it is automatically saved back into the aperture library at a location where the master file is stored. This is certainly true for CS3. Is it not true for CS4 and CS5.
    Steven
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  • windhoveruk Level 2 Level 2 (300 points)
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    May 16, 2010 12:48 AM (in response to e2photo)
    Hi Steven

    If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that the picture you have edited in CS (after exporting from Aperture) is ....."automatically"..... saved back into the Aperture Library ?

    This is certainly not the case, I'm using CS4 and after exporting to CS4 from within Aperture, any edits you make IN CS4, within CS4, are not included in the version that returns to Aperture if you do not save it IN CS4 first Steven....

    After editing in CS4, if you try to close CS4 (cmd & Q) you are asked do you want to save the file before closing, if 'don't save' is selected, the version Aperture created to export to CS4 is saved, but with no edits. If 'save' is selected then all your edits are preserved on the version that returns to Aperture, as a .psd file.

    The OP asked...."I tried using Photoshop CS5 as my external editor. The resulting PSD file does not display correctly in Aperture but will reopen correctly in Photoshop. What gives?"

    So I wondered two things here,

    1. Has the OP NOT saved the image in CS before returning to Aperture.....(no edits preserved)
    2. Maybe the OP has not checked whether or not to Maximise file Compatibility ( In CS > Preferences > File Handling > Maximise PSD and PSB File Compatibility....) maybe the OP has 'Never' checked here in error......?? Instead of 'Ask' or 'Always'....??

    If the OP has not checked '2' above, then the image will open in CS but not Aperture.

    ""To use an external editor in Aperture
    Select an item in the Browser.

    Choose Photos > Edit with > [application name] (or press Command-Shift-O).

    Aperture creates a new master (leaving the original unchanged), converts it to the chosen file format, and then opens the file in the external editor. The file is tracked as a new master stacked with the original master.

    When you’ve finished modifying the image, audio, or video file in the external application, save the file.""

    The saved file is automatically updated in Aperture.



    All the best Steven...... Gerry...

    Message was edited by: windhoveruk
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  • Moich Level 2 Level 2 (475 points)
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    May 16, 2010 1:42 AM (in response to windhoveruk)
    I just ran a test for you. Opened in external editor (CS5). Applied adjustment layers to 300 dpi 16bit psd, rendered clouds, created masks and sharpened. I saved the multi layered file and it opens fine in aperture and open back fine in photoshop. So it's not a problem with CS5-Aperture compatibility.

    Can I ask what you are doing in photoshop as that may be the problem- are you using different color modes like LAB colour and not returning back to RGB before saving? Descibe your workflow and we'll try to find where the problem is.

    M.
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  • windhoveruk Level 2 Level 2 (300 points)
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    May 16, 2010 2:05 AM (in response to Moich)
    Hi Moich

    Thanks for confirming CS5. I don't have any issue's with CS... The OP is having a problem with the final image not displaying properly in CS5.

    Your suggestion re different colour modes/ not returning back to RGB in CS before saving, is a good one....

    If the OP get's in touch, perhaps this can be resolved eventually....

    Regards.... Gerry....
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  • Moich Level 2 Level 2 (475 points)
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    May 16, 2010 2:19 AM (in response to windhoveruk)
    windhoveruk wrote:


    The OP is having a problem with the final image not displaying properly in CS5.


    Yep we'll wait and see, though i note the OP is having problems as the image

    does not display correctly in Aperture


    not in CS5 as you mention.



    M.
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  • KBeat Level 3 Level 3 (790 points)
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    May 20, 2010 7:39 AM (in response to RB851)
    This is most likely due to "maximize compatibility" in Photoshop being unchecked or turned off. Aperture, nor even Adobe's Lightroom for that matter, can't read PSD files with layers unless the "maximize compatibility" checkbox is turned on. If it's off, you'll end up with a PSD file that displays just fine in Photoshop but does not in Aperture.

    For those that are interested, all that checkbox does is embed a flat file version of the image within the document. This makes for a larger file, but one that can be viewed in Aperture and Lightroom.
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  • robogobo Level 2 Level 2 (290 points)
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    May 20, 2010 2:09 PM (in response to KBeat)
    You deserve a green star.
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  • e2photo Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)
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    May 20, 2010 5:29 PM (in response to robogobo)
    I open in CS3 thru Aperture. I use the TIFF format as the opening specification. I click the close button when done editing in CS and it asks me if I want to save changes, and I click yes. The changes are then represented in a new aperture picture with a lower right of the thumb picture as a bullseye. If I click on that picture to open in my external editor, all of the layers, etc are there and if you look in the folder where your referenced masters are located, you will find a new tiff file. I would guess that CS4 and CS5 will behave in a similar way.
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  • rk3636 Calculating status...
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    Jun 5, 2010 5:53 AM (in response to RB851)
    I'd like to export raw files to PS5 from Aperture to work on them with Camera Raw inside PS5, but I only seem to be able to export as TIFF or jpeg. Why can't I export Raw from Aperture to Ps5 (using PS5 as plug-in)?
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  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (121,630 points)
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    Jun 5, 2010 6:33 AM (in response to rk3636)
    In the designers of Aperture's minds is the notion that you would use Aperture to process the Raw.

    Some options: Export Masters from Aperture and process them as you will

    Check out [Catapult|http://brushedpixel.com>

    Regards

    TD
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  • .ben Calculating status...
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    Jul 4, 2010 8:50 AM (in response to RB851)
    I had the same problem - 'maximise compatibility' fixed it.

    Now I want to be able to save the psd file as a jpg in aperture, without killing the original master.
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