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Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:17 AM (in response to vidguy7)You were told time and again it is an AT&T problem, as early as this morning.
You're still acting like you weren't.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:17 AM (in response to milesmutt)Many people are not motivated to post on forums. Thanks for your valuable input.iOS 4
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:19 AM (in response to vidguy7)The software WON'T Get transmitted. It is at AT&T's end with their systems.
Can you read?
Get REAL, man.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:20 AM (in response to saliday)Well, I have 3Gs running iOS4 and have been sitting here for 5 minutes holding my phone all sorts of ways and haven't dropped a single bar. So that sorta throws that one out.
glennMBP, Mac OS X (10.5)
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:24 AM (in response to cybercrypt13)
Well, I have 3Gs running iOS4 and have been sitting here for 5 minutes holding my phone all sorts of ways and haven't dropped a single bar. So that sorta throws that one out.
Considering you don't have an iPhone 4 to reference or anyway to tell us the snr drop that your experiencing, it's really hard to ascertain anything useful from this.
You could be in an area with very strong service such that the ~24dB drop experienced by all iPhone 4's doesn't noticeably drop your bars. (If you did have an iPhone4 to reference).Core i7 920 @ 4Ghz / 6GB DDR3 2000 / 128GB Intel X25-M / BFG Geforce 260 GTX, Windows 7, iPhone 1/3G/3GS/4
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:25 AM (in response to MojoNano)@Mojoname - interesting. A buddy of mine where comparing iP4's and signal strength. He doesn't have a bumper and I do. He would put his finger in that lower left position and see his bars drop. I did the same and saw nothing. So then he tried bridging the gap between the two antennas at the top of his phone only and nothing happens. Any thoughts on why one spot has a greater impact than the other if both are bridging the gap? Seems like if the bands were flipped you could essentially move the problem spot to the top and out of the way. I'm just curiousMac Pro (Gen 1), iMac 19 (white), MBP (Penryn), Mac OS X (10.6.4), 5 Gig RAM
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:25 AM (in response to gfgrimm)Well, this was in reply to the above mentioned test on a 3gs that said he could duplicate the issue. I also have 2 bars on my phone and regularly drop calls out here. The bigger point was that on a 3gs I can not duplicate the stuff people have reported on the 4. I have put off upgrading until Apple comes up with a solution. If its not a big deal then they're even crazier because ignoring the issue has people like me walking away from them.
glennMBP, Mac OS X (10.5)
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:27 AM (in response to cybercrypt13)In most cases the 3GS is not effected. I can't get my wfe's 3 to do it either. Just ignore the name callers on this thread...like the guy that tells people they can't read, you need a new brain, your accont has limits on uploads, etc. Clowns like this add nothing to the REAL issues people are having.iOS 4
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:46 AM (in response to cybercrypt13)Indeed the 3GS does exhibit the same problem.
Many were here complaining of it upon it's release, apples never really been good at the phone part of the devices, The 4 being the worst to suffer from attenuation.
My first 3GS went back to the store with the problem and I spent most of it's 12mths being unable to reliably get service or get reasonable call quality.
It was the main reason I upgraded to the 4, while it is indeed better at reception problem is it's far more prone to attenuation problems than any of the other Iphones.
Difference being with the 3GS many like myself were prepared to overlook it's shortcommings as it was useable because it was a great device.
With the 4 not so much, the unit turns into a brick when held normally because the attenuation degrades both the reception and transmission of the unit effecting all areas bluetooth the lot.High end Custom PC
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:55 AM (in response to StuartDonaghy)Data slowness is AT&T problem. Here's link from AP: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100707/apon_hi_te/us_tec_at_tiphone
Affects they say 2% of users in the areas that use Alcatel-Lucent base stations. Despite hysteria on forums it has nothing to do with Apple and by far doesn't affect everybody.
Explains why here in NYC me and everybody I know with iP4 are actually enjoying noticeably increased upload speeds compared to older iPhones and other at&t 3G phones. In general data speeds and stability are amazing now after at&t deployed big chunk of 850Mhz spectrum here.Asus EeePC, Other OS
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:54 AM (in response to squarejp)
Apple bumped the signal bar back in 2008 for 3G reception:
Check this experiment to show the antenna issue with speed test:
They must have had a memory bypass since then considering the daft wording of the latest "open letter", the fw had a bars tweak on the 3G to fool the users....more bars in more places is now replaced with some bars if you are right handed but no bars if left handed!
Maybe after the white phone appears we can get the left handed option with the antenna join on the other side.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:59 AM (in response to StuartDonaghy)There is no way that this is a software issue as Apple has tried to describe. I have an AT&T MicroCell just 30 feet away from me. If I put my palm over the black line, shorting the two antennas, I can watch the signal strength degrade from 5 bars to nothing at all.
However, the only software explanation could be that something in the code sees a small degradation in the signal. It then gets caught in a loop and continues to subtract that reduction amount in the display. And once the the display is less than or equal to zero, it automatically shuts off the cellular radio. Perhaps this all happens while signal is still actually good in reality. This is just a hypothetical explanation.
My solution to this, as well as to give my phone a cool look, is to apply an iColor Wrap (see http://www.iColorWrap.com)iPhone 4, iOS 4
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 11:59 AM (in response to Zebra1)
You were told time and again it is an AT&T problem, as early as this morning.
Zebra is right: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100707/apon_hi_te/us_tec_at_tiphoneAsus EeePC, Other OS
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 12:02 PM (in response to vidguy7)I'd get a new brain if I were you.
You were proven WRONG, and now can only think of nothing else to say. I can imagine how that must feel.
The problem only affects 2% of AT&T's customers, and no it won't get "downloaded". It will just "happen" when they get to it.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2010 12:04 PM (in response to klopus)Actually I have been telling him for TWO DAYS!!!!
I told him it was a network issue.
It was obvious