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New Guy Needs Help.  Spot Light Pointer

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Jul 24, 2010 9:03 AM
Here is my dilemma, I need to shoot video of High School son playing football this season (for college prospects) and an indie film friend recommended shooting with the Canon T2i with a good lens. I have a need to edit the footage and "spot light point" my son at the beginning of each play (to help scouts/recruiter coaches spot him easily). I also have plans for a web based video project to start next year.


1. Does Final Cut Express have a feature that will allow me to "spot light point" on a few frames per clip?

2. Any suggestions on Canon lens to match with T2i for optimum shooting of football in a lit nighttime stadium?

3. Is the Adobe editing product better than Final Cut?

4. Would I be better off getting Final Cut vice the express version.

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
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  • Zak Ray Level 4 Level 4 (3,465 points)
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    Jul 24, 2010 10:20 AM (in response to John Hollingsworth)
    1. Not exactly sure what you mean by that, but if it's what it sounds like, yes. But it may note be easy.

    2. Any good lens will do, the "faster" (1.4, 1.8) the better for nighttime shooting. Also make sure you get enough CF cards to hold everything you capture.

    3. Strictly for T2i media, I would argue yes.

    4. Final Cut Pro has an easier workflow for T2i media, but not much easier. Besides media handling, do your own research to decide if it's better for your needs.
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  • Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (9,395 points)
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    Jul 24, 2010 11:01 AM (in response to John Hollingsworth)
    Hi -
    Opinions are like rear ends, in that everyone has one, but here goes mine:

    The Camera

    I would forget the Canon T2i. It adds a level of complexity to the process that you do not need if your goal is to produce scouting tapes of your son. The T2i is more suited to your indie filmmaker friend, who is willing to trade off its more complicated work flow and less convenient operation for the extended flexibility and potential image quality, that frankly, for your purpose, do not need. It is primarily designed as a still camera that shoots video, and because of this, you lose some of the convenience of a dedicated video camera. Instead, I would recommend a camera like:

    as it is a self contained workhorse, good in low light, with great zoom lens and very good method of stabilizing shots so that your movies will appear smoother.

    I would also recommend you buy additional high capacity batteries:

    and a Monopod to support the camera while you are sitting in the stands or standing on the sidelines:

    No matter what camera you decide on, you need to get it as soon as possible and begin practicing with it - hopefully practicing filming your son's football practices - so that you get used to the controls and handling of the camera in game situations. You need to practice, practice, practice, or there is a good chance you will miss your son's game winning touchdown. I can't emphasize this enough - the pros that shoot Monday Night Football combine both knowledge of football. years of experience shooting the game, and total familiarity with their equipment. You will need to learn to balance covering the action with the lens set to wide angle (to make sure you get all the action) to shooting with the lens in a more telephoto mode (to help show the quality of your son's performance by being "closer up" to him).

    The Edit System

    If you have no prior edit experience, then either the Adobe or Apple product will be fine for you as you are learning from scratch. My preference is for the Apple Final Cut products, but that is because the old shoe fits best. Again, you have tasked yourself with having to learn editing software, which in itself is not to difficult, and to add a special effect, which again is not to difficult . . . . if you spend the time and energy to learn, attempt, struggle, ask questions, and try and try 'til you get what you want.

    Fortunately for you, you will have all the practice footage you have taken with your camera to practice on, to learn both basic editing and the addition of "spotlighting" your son.

    You will be very busy between now and the start of football season.

    One final note - regardless of which camera you choose, and which editing system you choose, you are recording video files. You will need to develop a method of archiving those files, storing them off your computer, so that if you have a hard disk failure on your computer, mid-season, you don't lose your footage. Once you get your camera and get started with the editing system, that will be your next chore - to implement a proactive archiving system to protect your work and footage.

    Good luck and hope this helps.
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  • Robert Stone Level 2 Level 2 (255 points)
    I am new to this section of Apple Discussions and just considering moving from iMovie to FCE so I can only comment on a couple of points:

    The best lens for games would likely be the 70-200 mm F/2.8 image stabilized "L" lens. I have one and it is great. It is also not cheap.

    Overall, however, I would have to agree with Meg in that you would likely be better off with a Sony Camcorder rather than using the T2i. I have a T2i and video is fantastic BUT not that easy to do. Focus is basically manual and a VERY important point for what you want to do is the fact that clips are limited (at highest resolution 1080p / 30 FPS) to about 12 minutes. It would be very inconvenient if your son's key touchdown or block or whatever took place during the every-12 minute break when you can't shoot, though I suppose you could stop recording after every whistle this would add yet another layer of complexity. Don't get me wrong, I love the T2i but for your purpose it may well not be the best choice. Good luck with whatever you choose, and to your son for a successful year!

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  • Dr. Dave Level 1 Level 1 (145 points)
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    Aug 6, 2010 10:49 PM (in response to John Hollingsworth)
    1. Yes, FC does have a method to "spotlight." It is not overly difficult to do. I'd recommend you come back to the forum once you have some feel for the basic editing you will need to do.

    4. To do what you want, I cannot see what advantage Pro would have over Express. But then, again, I've only used Express. FCE is also bunches less expensive than Pro.
    4G MacBook Pro 15 in. (late 2008), Mac OS X (10.6.3), 250G and 500G Ext HDs; FCE HD 4.0.1; CS 1


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