Currently Being ModeratedAug 9, 2010 7:51 AM (in response to Waymen)Yes I did file a bug report.
SklarMacbook, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 9, 2010 9:04 AM (in response to Waymen)Well I bought the ipad dock to VGA adapter yesterday and sure enough it only outputs 4:3 and when I switch to wide screen it does stretch the picture but not the way you want. Initially I get the wide 16-9 view but with black bars on the top and bottom. Oddly when I would hit the button to fit the screen on a movie playing back on the ipad it would enlarge the wide screen signal, but it cropped the wide screen part off dispaying 4:3 again but filled the upper and lower part of the monitor which is a 16.9 monitor. I also got different results with two different VGA cables and tried it on a 16.10 monitor and it completely filled the screen but everyone was taller and thinner on the 16.10. VGA has never been a wide screen resolution. But who has a square tv or monitor any more. It seems it is only for projector use for presentations.
The ipad would make the perfect apple tv, but for wide screen resolutions there really needs to be a dock to hdmi adapter of some kind. I was going to exchange my vga to a component cable but I guess there is no point as it seems to do the same thing, but seeing it is returnable I may give it a shot and report back but I got the vga because I wanted to hook the ipad to my 16.9 1080p computer monitor htat only has vga and hdmi inputs no component.
Attaching macs to tv's has always been touchy until 1080p tv's came out, some 720p tv's are really 728p so the macs menus would be outside the viewable area. The new mini and the new OS update has a new function to be able to scale the overscan in the displays system prefs pain which fixes the problem with older hd tvs that have slightly odd resolutions like my old sony. I wish that came out thee years ago. I think the ipad could be perfect for tv hook up in the fact that Airvideo a great app available on itunes lets you access all your movies with many more formats than itunes can play and let's you stream videos from any macs on your network to your ipad and then out to a tv. Hopefully they will fix this soon and get the ipad to display the 16.9 signal properly when outputed. I new the vga adapter would be trial purchase but the component is a standard hd/widescreen cable and that should work but I guess it does not because the ipad native res is 4:3 but it displays a wide screen by shrinking the video to fit the 4:3 screen hence black bars on the top and botton. So when you output that to a 16.9 screen you are going to see a 4.3 view on your 16:9 screen which means black bars all the way around the video 16.9 video.
Most tv's have a zoom function so it might be possible to leave the ipad in 4:3 mode with the black bars all the way around the wide screen movie and then zoom the tv to fill the screen, I know my plasma could do that but of course it will degrade the quality of the picture but that might be worth a try for those trying to do this with a tv.
Here are the component cable specs
Note: Component video output to television using iPad is 480p or 576p resolution.
Basically the do not say it will support a wide screen resolution.Mac Pro 8 core 2008 2.8ghz, mac mini hdmi, iPhone 4, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 9, 2010 11:06 AM (in response to Lance Mcvickar)I tried hooking the ipad up to my plasma and pretty much the same thing happened.
It outputs 4.3 only and you can see the wide screen version of a 16.9 movie but it has black bars all the way around. Just like when you watch a movie that is wide screen on the ipad it has black bars above and below then you hit the fill screen button and it crops the edges as it fits it fills the ipads screen, the 1080p tv is just displaying what it is seeing which is vga resolution 1024 X 768. The VGA adapter actually is a higher res output than the component cable but neither one can do 16.9 output it seems. When you hit the button on the video to fill the screen on the ipad it fits the tv nicely in 4.3 only and the sides that you once saw get cropped, the picture quality is still pretty good. Basically the ipad is 4.3 and that is all it can output at the moment. I also could not get my tv to zoom the picture when it was showing the wide screen with black bars all around as I mentioned in my other post as a possible fix, it did not work.Mac Pro 8 core 2.8, mac mini hdmi, iPhone 4, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 9, 2010 12:13 PM (in response to Starhawk)I believe that it works with the iPhone because the iPhone has a native widescreen aspect ratio where as the ipad has a 4.3. I don't think there is anything wrong with the iPad it jut can't output and upscale 16.9 or 720 p or 1080p because that is not it's native resolution, it can only output 4.3 ratio period. Perhaps apple will update the iPad software so it can upscale the video so it can output in a true widescreen format until then 4.3 is all we are going to get unless you buy an additional VGA to hdmi scaler of some kind look at gefen products.Mac Pro 8 core 2.8, mac mini hdmi, iPhone 4, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 10, 2010 12:04 AM (in response to Lance Mcvickar)
Lance Mcvickar wrote:
I believe that it works with the iPhone because the iPhone has a native widescreen aspect ratio where as the ipad has a 4.3. I don't think there is anything wrong with the iPad it jut can't output and upscale 16.9 or 720 p or 1080p because that is not it's native resolution, it can only output 4.3 ratio period.
The 4:3 display shouldn't be the issue. If it were, Apple shouldn't offer a widescreen option in the iPad's TV output preferences. IMO, the current behavior is the result of a simple bug.
As for the VGA adapter, that may be a different issue since with VGA you should be able to specify an output resolution and it will then be up to the app you are using to scale the content to best fit the external display. However, 480p TV (component output) is a bit different since it can either run in a 4:3 mode or a widescreen (16:9) format.Mac Pro 2.66GHz 2GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.4.11), MacBook 2.0GHz 2GB SDRAM on Mac OS X 10.5.6
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 10, 2011 2:49 PM (in response to Michael Rosenberg)Apple has fixed this issue on the iPad and iPhone on iOS 4.x. Both my iPad and iPhone display the correct aspect ratio for video out.
Currently Being ModeratedMay 26, 2012 7:10 PM (in response to jbui1018)
Sadly, this means that iPad video out using the Apple Composite AV cable is now broken for a 4:3 TV. It used to work fine.
On the iPhone 4S there is a button that toggles widescreen and 4:3 output, but with the (original) iPad on 5.1.1 the button does nothing. It's been this way since 4.x.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 11:56 AM (in response to Lance Mcvickar)
Dude. If you have a PC or Mac with a HDMI port, connect the laptop to your HDMI port so you will be able to view everything on your laptop on your TV. Then download and install AirServer on your laptop, which will capture all IOS and Apple devices that support Apple Air, Hit your Mirror button in the Control Panel and then it will mirror in AirServer on your laptop that is connected to the HDMI port and display on your tv. Now since Now Maximize the Window on your laptop and it should maximize on your TV. Either way you will save money cause AirServer is only $15 bucks. Hopes this helps. Peace.