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Iphone 3G OS4 problems

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  • capt_bill Calculating status...
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    Aug 26, 2010 8:15 PM (in response to jala0419)
    jala0419 wrote: "Apple doesn't support downgrading. I lump anything that Apple does not support in the jailbreaking catagory in my mind."






    From my perspective, Apple doesn't support the 3G, period!

    That being said, they left me to my own devices to fix something that they broke, and over 2 months later, they still haven't bothered repairing. Who knows how long I'd be without a working phone if not for helpful websites instructing me how to do a rollback myself, Apple sure isn't rushing to fix anything.

    Lifehacker and similar sites had rollback instructions published within days of the initial failure reports. There's not a reason in the world that Apple couldn't have provided a so-called "supported" rollback to 3.1.3.

    I'm sorry, but Apple has failed miserably. It's clear to me that they just don't care anymore, and frankly now I don't care about them either.

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  • RestlessFool Level 2 Level 2 (380 points)
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    Aug 27, 2010 6:21 AM (in response to capt_bill)
    "they left me to my own devices to fix something that they broke, and over 2 months later, they still haven't bothered repairing."

    From my perspective (and the perspective of family and friends with iPhone 3G), nothing is broken and some things are enhanced through iOS4 (up to 4.0.2).

    I was amazed on another topic to see someone thinking that the two grills at the bottom of the iPhone 3G were both 'speakers' while the manual (on all iPhones) makes it clear where is the 'speaker' and where is the 'microphone'. Why is that relevant here on this topic? Perhaps because not everyone reads manuals and understands how to follow instructions and to analyse, fault-find and address issues when they arise?

    Just because not everyone doesn't/can't be bothered/etc does not mean that everyone doesn't/can't be bothered/etc, and, surprise-surprise, not everyone has 'issues' as a result, perhaps?
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  • capt_bill Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Aug 27, 2010 6:53 AM (in response to RestlessFool)
    RestlessFool wrote:


    From my perspective (and the perspective of family and friends with iPhone 3G), nothing is broken and some things are enhanced through iOS4 (up to 4.0.2). ...

    Perhaps because not everyone reads manuals and understands how to follow instructions and to analyse, fault-find and address issues when they arise?

    Just because not everyone doesn't/can't be bothered/etc does not mean that everyone doesn't/can't be bothered/etc, and, surprise-surprise, not everyone has 'issues' as a result?



    Perhaps. I'll only speak of my own experience with the issue. I followed the sanctioned upgrade procedure exactly as directed. When I noticed problems, I rebooted. When still not satisfied, I came to these forums and followed several suggestions posted here. When those still did not resolve the problem, I filed multiple field reports with Apple. Then tried restoring as new, and most things (not everything) was better for 2 days, before slowing to a crawl again. At that point, I made an appointment with the Genius Bar, whereupon the Apple genius simply repeated steps I had already taken, and advised there would be a fix coming, but he didn't know when. Only after all of this, did I go to the lifehacker site, and educate myself on how to turn back my 3G to 3.1.3. Once I rolled back, everything works again, exactly how it did before this fiasco.

    Now, as to why I and many others have problems and you don't ... I really don't know, but I suspect it has something to do with the apps we're using. Perhaps I require more memory than you do?

    My major gripe is that Apple could have saved themselves and us a lot of headaches, if they would have put out a notice that "some" 3G users were having problems with 4.x, and to wait until they figured the issue out, that would have been a major step forward. Also, offering a supported rollback to 3.1.3 for those who wished it, would have been an excellent short/long term solution to the problem.

    Instead, they behave like my 13 year old and stubbornly dig their hands deeper into their pockets while closing their eyes and pretending the problem isn't there.

    Whether Apple is in the right, or the disillusioned 3G user is, isn't really relevant anymore. Deserved or not, many of us are upset at what we perceive as poor service and outright fraud here. That is going to cost them brand loyalty, and rightly so.
    MacBook Pro 17" 2.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB Ram, Mac OS X (10.6.4), iPhone 3G, iOS 3.1.3 (You can forget 4.0)
  • msemick Calculating status...
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    Aug 27, 2010 7:20 AM (in response to capt_bill)
    Like I said before - I too have troubles with my phone now (thanks to Apple). Went through what everyone else did to correct it, restoring, upgrading firmware, ect. I even spent the extra cash for the apple care program.... and I was told by an Apple rep. that my phone will run slower because of the enhancements that I cannot take advantage of....

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  • msemick Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 27, 2010 8:12 AM (in response to msemick)
    My last post was edited by "host"? Hmm... interesting....

    Ok.. let me try a revised version of it....

    If I sold a product to somebody, AND they went the extra mile to ensure the happiness with the product - aka apple care program. I then had said person bring this product (that they were completely happy with) in for an "upgrade" and the "upgrade" screwed up the product making it almost unbearable to use - I as the seller am tasked with making it right - Apple - whatchya gonna do about it???? And do it quick!

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  • EASt Calculating status...
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    Aug 27, 2010 9:04 AM (in response to iphones make me angry)
    What I fail to understand is how disabling features on your 3G is a fix to the slow-down problem? Why would someone neuter their iPhone solely to get it to run at a normal speed?

    Downgrading to 3.13 gives you the ability to run all features at full speed with no problems. I'm on 2 weeks after the downgrade now, and haven't had to hard-reset the phone, wait for keyboard taps, or deactivate any features.

    It just works as normal again.
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  • RomMan Calculating status...
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    Aug 27, 2010 11:26 AM (in response to EASt)
    Does anyone know if downgrading your OS is supported by Apple?
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  • mancer Calculating status...
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    Aug 27, 2010 12:17 PM (in response to RomMan)
    The answer is no it is not supported... is your phone functional to a satisfactory level? if not then consider that as a sign that apple is no longer actively supporting that device, if you would like it to preform at its intended level you will need to do it yourself... or wait around for apple... 53 pages of posts not one apple comment don't hold your breath.
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  • D.R.C. Level 1 Level 1 (145 points)
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    Aug 27, 2010 12:18 PM (in response to RomMan)
    RomMan wrote:
    Does anyone know if downgrading your OS is supported by Apple?


    @romman,
    The process of downgrading is not supported by Apple, at present. However, once your phone is back to the previous version of firmware, you will get exactly the same support from Apple as if you had never upgraded/downgraded. You'll be back to the state you were in before this debacle with iOSlow occured. Apple sold millions of 3G phones with version 3 firmware installed, and many (fortunate) 3G owners never upgraded to iOSlow. Their phones are still fully supported by Apple.
    MacBook Pro 2.5 GHz, Mac OS X (10.6.4), iPhone 3G (iOSlow)
  • msemick Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 27, 2010 12:25 PM (in response to mancer)
    more than 53 pages.. there is another thread 20 more pages long!

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  • mancer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 27, 2010 12:33 PM (in response to msemick)
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  • jbrianwilson@gmail.com Calculating status...
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    Sep 1, 2010 2:38 AM (in response to iphones make me angry)
    On the previous operating system I could listen to the iTunes streaming app and surf on Safari and check e-mail etc... Now when I go to the home screen the iTunes audio I am streaming stops. ***? this was the only good thing about the iPhone.
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  • Bmode Calculating status...
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    Sep 1, 2010 7:03 PM (in response to jbrianwilson@gmail.com)
    I must say, 22 years of using Apple's products, this is the worst situation that Apple has ever put us in. Thankfully I have a 3GS and only have a Bluetooth **** to deal with, but my roommate is constantly showing me her frozen 3G iPhone. Probably 3-4 times a day too. Let's just hope Apple redeems themselves with this forthcoming 4.1 update.

    What would happen if millions iPhone users who still have 3G phones, just plain said F U and quit? AT&T would get hit the hardest I suppose, and that would not be a bad thing.
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  • msemick Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 2, 2010 5:10 AM (in response to iphones make me angry)
    So.. here's where I am now. Had my "genius" appt. at the Apple store yesterday and the guy ran diagnostics on my phone... low and behold there were numerous system errors, batter errors, and unresponsive apps! I told him everything that was done to try and correct all of this... end result... my new phone will be here in 48hrs.

    Hopefully this one works better, cuz I really do (despite the tone of most of my posts) like my phone - when it works properly that is!
    Sony, Windows XP
  • kdigit0l Calculating status...
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    Sep 6, 2010 7:58 PM (in response to msemick)
    I really hope iOS4 does the trick. I have so had it with Apple.
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