7 Replies Latest reply: Sep 12, 2010 11:49 PM by gilapuki
glenmini Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
I have searched but still no avail.

I want to start taking our electronic music on the road and play live, we use logic and use the plug ins a lot so mainstage is a good choice.

We cant play EVERYTHING live so ideally we will have to keyboards and a guitar.

What i want to know is is there an interface i need that means i can control mainstage, ideally like a mixer, so i can control the backing tracks as well as the keyboards externally.

For example, i would like a seperate track to control bass, drums, ambient noise etc. Almost like a Akai controller for live with those faders on the bottom.

Or how would anyone else play live for electronic music with mainstage with only 2 keyboards?

Glenn

Black Macbook, Mac OS X (10.6.4), Music Workstation - Fast Track Pro, M Audio Keys, Korg MicroX
  • 1. Re: Mainstage Mixing
    dingdangdawg Level 2 Level 2 (455 points)
    There are plenty of MIDI controllers that will do shat you want to do. I settled on a Novation Nocturn, as it has rotary encoders that sync up to what your controls are set to in MainStage (which was an important feature for me). You can assign the controls to anything in MainStage (I use them for volume, so for mixing just like you mention).
  • 2. Re: Mainstage Mixing
    glenmini Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Thanks for your help ding!

    Ive been searching for MIDI controllers now and have narrowed it down to a behringer bcf2000 or a Evolution UC-33E.

    I want 5 backing tracks via mainstage, can i control the volumes of these with the controlllers?

    Also how would i connect my midi keyboard with this all so i can play one track live too (other is guitar so no worried through pc there)

    G
  • 3. Re: Mainstage Mixing
    dingdangdawg Level 2 Level 2 (455 points)
    I can speak for the Behringer, haven't tried the Evolution The bcf2000 is a bit klunky and challenging to learn, but there is plenty of online support, and the motorized faders sync up nicely with MainStage. So, yes you can control all the volumes with the faders, plus anything else you want with the rotary controls. I don't think the Evolution has motorized faders, so I would go with the Behringer so the faders move to adjust to your current MainStage volume settings. Less thrash!

    If you keyboard is MIDI in/out only, you will need to be using a MIDI interface connected to your Mac, like a MIDISport or something. The Behringer will connect via USB. The MainStage doc explains how to set up a virtual instrument, played via your physical keyboard. To get your backing tracks synced up, there have been some other recent threads about this, so you may want to read those. You can also run your guitar through MainStage, but would need an audio interface. Some interfaces combine audio and MIDI, though, so one interface could do double duty.
  • 4. Re: Mainstage Mixing
    gilapuki Level 3 Level 3 (530 points)
    I use a UC-33. I find it very versatile & easy to use. You can set up a number of different control number layouts by MIDI channel if it helps you. (It was useful in Logic 7)
    It has survived several years of use on the road. I use it for anything from simple 4 piece orthodox band to wild electronic FX using synths & FX pushed to their limits.
    It has handled everything easily & well.
    All faders, knobs & buttons can be assigned in MainStage. Its only drawback is that it won't allow you to plug in an expression pedal directly. Several could be connected via MIDI.
  • 5. Re: Mainstage Mixing
    glenmini Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Hi again guys, youve almost solved everything for me.

    Wondered if you had any comments on the Korg nanoKONTROL, as i think this looks even better also its cheaper.

    Im going to be using a powered USB hub too so i can control the nano, the microX, and output to an fast track pro box.

    G
  • 6. Re: Mainstage Mixing
    dingdangdawg Level 2 Level 2 (455 points)
    If you search the logic and mainstage forums on nanokontrol, you'll find many have had success using it. It feels a bit cheap when you use it, but reviews have been good.

    Be advised, though, that many controllers, including the nanokontrol, have old-fashioned "absolute" knobs. So anytime you change the parameter a given knob is controlling, the new parameter has to "jump" to some unrelated value next time you touch the knob.

    The reason I settled on the Nocturn is that it uses "relative" rotary encoders, which avoid parameter jumps. And each rotary encoder has a "collar" of LEDs so you can see at a glance the value of each parameter.

    So, two different technologies --- and it all depends on what you need/want.
  • 7. Re: Mainstage Mixing
    gilapuki Level 3 Level 3 (530 points)
    dingdangdawg wrote:
    Be advised, though, that many controllers, including the nanokontrol, have old-fashioned "absolute" knobs. So anytime you change the parameter a given knob is controlling, the new parameter has to "jump" to some unrelated value next time you touch the knob.


    This is not a problem. You can change this behaviour in MainStage Preferences. Set them to:

    Preferences>General>Parameter Values>Respond to Hardware Move = Pickup.

    Once that is selected, any movement of your controls has no effect until it reaches the parameter value. E.g. parameter = 57%. Fader = 100%. Moving the fader will not change the parameter until the fader reaches 57%.