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  • jgreenfield1 Calculating status...
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    Sep 13, 2010 10:10 PM (in response to califadecordoba)
    Just got the new 4th gen Shuffle after much abuse finally killed my 2nd gen. I went for one 6 mile run with no problems during the run. After trying to recharge it I cannot get it to play. Apparently they haven't fixed the "sweat issue"!
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  • iPod Whisperer Level 3 Level 3 (775 points)
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    Sep 14, 2010 2:41 PM (in response to jgreenfield1)
    How did you try to recharge it? Was it connected to power brick or to a computer left on so it would charge?
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  • James Bowie Calculating status...
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    Sep 15, 2010 2:12 AM (in response to jgreenfield1)
    i'm keen to know where you positioned the iPod to achieve 'sweat' damage? i'm considering one of these to replace my 1G nano (held in a Nike armband) as the battery is fading; and assumed that i might clip it onto the top of my shorts.

    i'm also guessing it's not rain-proof!

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  • lookingtoo Calculating status...
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    Sep 20, 2010 7:37 AM (in response to jgreenfield1)
    The difference in terms of sweat resistance between Gen 2 and 4 is the different shell assembly used in the Gen 4 and the poitioning of the earphone jack. The Gen 2 comes as a whole aluminium shell with access to the interior via the white plastic parts in he middle of the shell (th shell is essentially a hollowed shell) so sweat does not get into the interior easily compared to Gen 4 where the clip itself is a separate part so the opening at the back of the shuffle enbables sweat to easily get into the interior causing similar sweat issue as Gen 3. Most complains about sweat issue on the Gen 3 w about its earbud remote but my issue with en 3 is sweat getting into the interior via the poorly placed earphone jack at the top instead of at the side of the shuffle like Gen 2.

    The other design flaw that results in sweat getting into the interior of theGen 4 is the earphone jack now being at the very top and edge although its back to the side like Gen 2 whereas Gen 2 has it right towards the back at the clip end and a distance away from the edge of the shuffle's body.

    I use my shuffle clipped to my waistband and anyone who does that while exercising will face sweat issues with G3n 3 and 4 while Gen 2 as explained above is more sweat resistance.

    Alternatively you could enhance its sweat resistance yourself by either coating the gap where the clip joins the body at the back of the Gen 4 with liquid rubber coating or disassemble the back clip and spray the entire interior with electrical resistance waterproof coating (I don't think that would be a god idea as it might/will void warranty if it doesn't stop the seat issue completely) from the hardware store.

    I am considering if I should get the Gen 4 due to its better sound quality as reported and also its smaller weight and size or should I just stick to the Gen 3 of which I have bought a scorche remote shell which seems to be working well against the sweat issue so far. By the way I have had my Gen 3 exchanged three times so far due to the same sweat issue before I got this scorche remote casing. My trusty Gen 2 died before I decided to get Gen 3 as the replacement Gen 2 I got from apple died within 3 weeks from flat battery!!!! How frustrating.

    Sorry for the long post with poor grammar, its late and I'm sleepy!

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  • calicalifornia Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 28, 2010 3:03 PM (in response to lookingtoo)
    Wow great advice lookingtoo. One idea I had was to wear a hat and clip my shuffle onto the hat for running. That way, hopefully sweat wouldn't run down and into the shuffle. But I wanted to swim with music too so I found a company, 'H2ofriendly', that does like you say, waterproofs shuffles, and my shuffle works underwater now like a charm. and of course running is no problem.

    Also maybe you could post the specific waterproof coating you used and if it worked for the diy'ers. Thanks
  • Gusoline Calculating status...
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    Feb 21, 2011 10:27 AM (in response to lookingtoo)
    Just wanted to pass on my own experience - I had the 4th Gen and kept it clipped to my shirt. On one particularly hot day, it started skipping and then the controls ceased to work. It would usually register with iTunes after I connected it to my computer, but would never seem to hold a charge.

    I contacted Apple and they said it was water damage and therefore out of warranty. They offered to repair it for ~$70 which is funny since it only costs $50 new. I declined and now I'll be looking for a different MP3 player for exercise. Seriously? A mini-MP3 player whose obvious primary function is to be used while exercising can't stand some sweat? I'm not talking full immersion here. Poor poor design choice - I would have gladly paid a reasonable premium for something that would have lasted. The H2O model is another $100 and that is excessive, but surely they could have spent a few dollars tightening up the seals on this. I have a Kodak HD Video camera that is waterproof and the whole thing only costs $120 - surely Apple could have made this water resistant for an extra $20.
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