5 Replies Latest reply: Nov 29, 2005 9:02 AM by David S.
Spakuloid Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
I mean, really. What gives? I looked on these posts and found the workaround - to create Livetype ipr files of whatever background or some such nonsense and then bring that in to Motion - but that just *****, makes a slow program like Motion way too complicated and wastes time. The same goes for all those cool livetype custom effects. If I'm building something in motion and I want to have a text effect that takes two seconds to apply and time correctly in Livetype - I have to keyframe it out by hand in Motion and then tweak it for ten minutes to get it all to blend correctly. That just plain *****. Perhaps I'm missing something but it seems inevitable that Livetype will just fold itself into Motion at some point - why not now? What am I missing here?

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  • 1. Re: Why can't Motion 2 Link to Livetype effects and Backgrounds?
    David S. Level 7 Level 7 (20,630 points)
    I don't how to comment.

    Currently they don't. Perhaps Apple will change it.

    Also remember that Apple created Motion, but purchased LiveType from Prismo Graphics. Since then, the company has gradually integrated all its pro apps, but not to the degree that everyone wishes.
  • 2. Re: Why can't Motion 2 Link to Livetype effects and Backgrounds?
    ron nava Level 1 Level 1 (145 points)
    I have a work around that I found here.

    I used to use LiveType a lot before Motion came along. It's a very powerful, yet simple program. After I started using Motion, LiveType fell into dis-use. A friend recently told me how much fun he was having LiveType doing the menus and backgrounds for his DVDs and I thought I'd take a look again at LiveType - especially now that it's 2.0 - and I realized something.

    LiveType is a great enhancer to Motion.

    Just open Livetype (if you've got FCP or FCS, you've got it). Now go to the Textures tab of the media browser. There are somewhere around 200 fantastic professionally designed textures that make great backgrounds, lower thirds, font/graphic fills, right there - ripe for the plucking. And, they're looping.

    Now go to the Objects tab. You've got a similar number of elements, with alpha channels, etc that can make great backdrops, lower thirds, etc.

    And they're all procedural - they're not pre-rendered bitmaps. So size them how you need them.

    Now, how to get these into Motion? Simple. Pick a backdrop - say Mirage from the Medly Category. Click on Apply to New Track. Set your outpoint to the duration of the texture (in this case 3:09). Now the crucial bit, use the Edit/Project Properties menu (or cmd-0 - that's command-zero). Go to the "Background" section, set the opacity to 100 and click the Render Background. Now save your project to your new My LiveType Textures directory (or wherever you want). And because these are procedural, they only take up 4k on disk.

    While you're at it, save a bunch - any cool looking Texture or Object (with the Objects, because they have alpha channels, you shouldn't set the Render Background setting). When you're done you'll have a whole directory full of cool .ipr files. Now how do you get them into Motion? Well, because of the wonderful ProApp integration, they just load into Motion like Quicktime files. And because they're like media, you can set their end condition flag to be loop (in their Media tab in Motion) and stretch them to be however long you need in Motion.

    Try it! You'll like it!

    Ron Nava
    www.RonNava.com
  • 3. Re: Why can't Motion 2 Link to Livetype effects and Backgrounds?
    Patrick Sheffield Level 7 Level 7 (29,175 points)
    What idiot said that? Oh, wait, I did...

    Patrick

  • 4. Re: Why can't Motion 2 Link to Livetype effects and Backgrounds?
    ron nava Level 1 Level 1 (145 points)
    Sorry Pat, I thought I made it clear that I had found that post on this forum at the begining of my post. Not trying to take credit

    Ron
  • 5. Re: Why can't Motion 2 Link to Livetype effects and Backgrounds?
    David S. Level 7 Level 7 (20,630 points)
    What idiot said that? Oh, wait, I
    did...

    Patrick



    You really aren't an idiot.

    Otherwise you wouldn't be quoted (kinda of) so often.