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Sven R. Calculating status...
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Oct 14, 2010 3:05 PM
I go to Preferences > Security > Show Cookies, then I select some (using the filter e.g. "__u" to catch all Google analytics cookies, or just manually Cmd-clicking), click Remove. Cookies seem gone, close preferences, when I reopen it right away, the cookies are still gone. But a few minutes later, they magically all come back, resurrected from the digital dead.

Without visiting any of those sites.
Top-sites disabled (and none of the sites were top sites anyway)
Cookie file not locked.

I know I can delete the Cookies.plist file to get rid of ALL of them for good. Problem is I don't want to get rid of all of them. Is this a known bug in Safari? I've seen [people|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10596345] [reporting|http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100820122246AAJDPJc] the [same problem|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10880559] going back several versions, but no good explanation or fix for Safari itself. Any ideas?

And if it's known, why does Apple not fix it?

Safari 5.0.1
MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.5.8), 2.1 GHz, 4 GB RAM
  • Carolyn Samit Level 10 Level 10 (84,050 points)
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    Oct 14, 2010 3:09 PM (in response to Sven R.)
    Hi Sven,

    Try Safari Cookies Manager






    Carolyn
    27" iMac 3.2GHz Intel Core i3 MBAir iPad iPhone 3GS iLife iWork Pages Keynote, Mac OS X (10.6.4), QTPro Intuos Tablet Epson Olympus Airport JBL
  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (43,310 points)
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    Oct 14, 2010 3:37 PM (in response to Carolyn Samit)
    So not to confuse anybody:

    Safari Cookies is not called Safari Cookies Manager, even though it IS the only cookies manager available for Safari - it is just called Safari Cookies.

    20" 2.1GHz iSight iMac G5,, Mac OS X (10.5.8), iLife 9 but iMovie 6, QTPro 7.6.6, Safari 5.0.2
  • andyBall_uk Level 6 Level 6 (17,450 points)
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    Oct 14, 2010 3:53 PM (in response to Sven R.)
    I know I can delete the Cookies.plist file to get rid of ALL of them for good.


    does that actually work, if something resurrects them?

    all cookies - even w/o opening any more pages?

    particular sites?
  • ~Bee Level 7 Level 7 (30,565 points)
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    Oct 14, 2010 4:32 PM (in response to Sven R.)
    Do you have the
    "Warn when visiting fraudulent sites" box checked in your Safari preferences?
    Because that is a Google service. That might explain Google always coming back.
    15" MBP; 20"iMac Duo; 12 PB G4; mini; and a few more., Mac OS X (10.6.4), LaCie Ext. HD
  • Carolyn Samit Level 10 Level 10 (84,050 points)
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    Oct 15, 2010 2:01 PM (in response to Sven R.)
    HI,

    You might like this...

    http://www.orbicule.com/incognito/








    27" iMac 3.2GHz Intel Core i3 MBAir iPad iPhone 3GS iLife iWork Pages Keynote, Mac OS X (10.6.4), QTPro Intuos Tablet Epson Olympus Airport JBL
  • andyBall_uk Level 6 Level 6 (17,450 points)
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    Oct 15, 2010 2:10 PM (in response to Sven R.)
    the problem with your bug, is that very few people seem to notice it; or in my case,even when primed to - are unable to repeat it in any fashion.

    When i remove cookies, they stay gone, and the cookies.plist file is written to within seconds.In any event, Safari doesn't 'sync' to the version on disk & ignore the one in memory.

    I don't know what analytics has to do with the fraudulent sites - beyond google, of course.

    https://bugreport.apple.com/ is the place, if you can get a case together.
  • andyBall_uk Level 6 Level 6 (17,450 points)
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    Oct 17, 2010 4:29 PM (in response to Sven R.)
    If you know more, please enlighten us.


    all cookies - even w/o opening any more pages?

    particular sites?


    +
    happens even if not connected to the internet?
    in a new computer user account?

    even without browsing to other sites? (some reportedly recreate cookies where possible, based on Flash & other persistent data)
  • andyBall_uk Level 6 Level 6 (17,450 points)
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    Oct 17, 2010 6:01 PM (in response to Sven R.)
    I see - thanks for that, Sven.

    I get why you say it seems synced, because it does, yes. Which should exclude anything but an actual odd safari bug, or it is syncing/restoring from a misguided backup - somehow.

    If it's possible to recreate, then knowing if it 'needs' internet is useful, and the account check. Hopefully others who've seen (or not) this will chime in too.
  • Chuck Gray Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Oct 22, 2010 4:33 PM (in response to Sven R.)
    I was one of the people who posted a thread about this a year ago, and I've been unable to locate it.

    I was advised to tweak a setting, delete a file or two, and then kill whatever cookies I didn't want. They stayed gone until just a few days ago. My biggest culprit is of course Google. That thing will not stay dead.

    Many thanks to Sven for explaining those other cookies such as _utm and _qcb. I have no idea what any of the cookies do or who they report to, so I generally sign into my discussion forums and then turn off cookies so nothing else gets added. Now I realize that there were marketing trackers there the whole time thanks to Sven.

    FWIW, I deleted all of those, they returned ONCE, and then never again. Meanwhile, Google reappears ever 10-20 minutes.

    What is it about that one cookie?
    MacBook Pro 1.83, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (43,310 points)
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    Oct 22, 2010 4:39 PM (in response to Chuck Gray)
    Just turn them off:

    Removal/prevention of Google cookies:

    http://www.google.com/privacy_ads.html
    20" 2.1GHz iSight iMac G5,, Mac OS X (10.5.8), iLife 9 but iMovie 6, QTPro 7.6.6, Safari 5.0.2
  • Beta2 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Oct 23, 2010 8:29 AM (in response to Sven R.)
    This is not the answer, this is only to shed some light on the matter.
    I had this problem for over a year, it started in Safari 4 beta. Then about a month ago, quite by mistake I assure you, I installed an application called Plone. During installation Plone deleted all but six applications on my MBP (I had well over one hundred apps). After calming down my racing heart, I reinstalled everything from an older-than-reasonable backup. I now no longer have the cookies coming back from the digital dead. They go and stay gone.

    It also cured a issue where clicking the "Show in Finder" icon (or ctrl+clicking and selecting "Show in Finder") in the Downloads window worked, not to show in Finder, but to open the downloaded file.
    Pismo; MacBook Pro; G4 iBook; G4 PowerMac; 24" iMac, Mac OSes 9.1.1 thru 10.6.4
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