Darko Ibrahimpasic1

Q: No Volume Control on new Apple TV

Just bought a new Apple TV, but one thing is realllllllyyy bothering me. I noticed i can't control the volume of it via, apple remote that comes with the product or via Remote app for my iphone and ipad... Really *****.... I have to use my TV remote for that. Am I missing something here or did they take that feature out, cause I was able to on my old apple tv. Also If i stream music to it from my mac i can't stop the music using regular remote.. Just pain in the butt and inconsistencies...

Anyone ?

15' 2.5 MacBook Pro & 20' 2.4 iMac, Mac OS X (10.6)

Posted on Oct 1, 2010 6:33 PM

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  • by Alley_Cat,

    Alley_Cat Alley_Cat Oct 17, 2010 6:04 AM in response to Alley_Cat
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    Oct 17, 2010 6:04 AM in response to Alley_Cat
    Alley_Cat wrote:
    The tech is talking crap


    By which I mean the remote simply outputs an IR signal, how the device at the other end interprets that signal is independent of the remote itself.

    AppleTV 1 added volume control for stereo sound in one of the software updates.

    Frankly, I was one of the people who used to argue then that volume control should be the role of the amp/receiver or TV set and is not the primary job of a media device.

    Primarily I was against it as I didn't want the bitstream altered to attenuate the sound as inevitably detail would be lost - old AppleTV stereo output was 44.1kHz/16bit PCM over optical - the bandwidth was fixed.

    In practice I don't mind such features so long as they can be disabled.

    Multichannel audio would be even more intensive to process in AppleTV, it would have to be decoded, adjusted and re-encoded to a quieter 'passthrough' signal and I think this would have been beyond the 1st gen as it had limited horsepower, and on top pf that there may well have been licensing considerations for decoding the stream which Apple did not want to deal with.
  • by Charles Laux,

    Charles Laux Charles Laux Oct 23, 2010 4:04 PM in response to solsun
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    Oct 23, 2010 4:04 PM in response to solsun
    Because it can and it's a simple fix. Hide it and let us enable it in the settings menu.
  • by Charles Laux,

    Charles Laux Charles Laux Oct 23, 2010 4:12 PM in response to fuquam
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    Oct 23, 2010 4:12 PM in response to fuquam
    But none of the examples you mention have WI-FI remotes. I like to put my outdoor speakers on and control the tunes and volume from my iPhone outside. Also, PS3s kinda suck.
  • by Nathan Tharp,

    Nathan Tharp Nathan Tharp Oct 28, 2010 6:43 PM in response to Darko Ibrahimpasic1
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    Oct 28, 2010 6:43 PM in response to Darko Ibrahimpasic1
    ugh, what a pain. The whole point is simplicity. Check out how simple the remote is. Now when I hit play on something I have to try to find the volume remote for my TV. Either incorporate the volume level into the AppleTV or allow it to control the TV level through HDMI. My Dish TV remote and receiver do the latter.
  • by tgibbs,

    tgibbs tgibbs Oct 28, 2010 7:49 PM in response to Nathan Tharp
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    Oct 28, 2010 7:49 PM in response to Nathan Tharp
    And there is a simple solution. Doesn't your Dish remote have universal remote capability? So just tell it that you have some random DVD player or VCR, and have the AppleTV learn the commands of that remote. That's even simpler, isn't it? Instead of a different remote depending on whether you are watching Dish or AppleTV, you can use the same remote for both. Or do the same thing with your receiver remote. Or buy a dirt-cheap universal remote from Radio Shack and have it control everything.
  • by Abanih,

    Abanih Abanih Oct 29, 2010 9:37 PM in response to tgibbs
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    Oct 29, 2010 9:37 PM in response to tgibbs
    Sitting outside listening to music controlled by my appletv. The phone rings, a new song is louder than the last, someone asks a question...so I go to the remote app on my iPhone and turn down the volume. Gen1 sure but with the NEW Gen2 I can't touch the volume. Seriously - sorry but this seems like a pure BUG and step backwards to me. What a mess, hopefully there will be a fix.
  • by Nicolas Online,

    Nicolas Online Nicolas Online Nov 2, 2010 3:18 PM in response to Abanih
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    Nov 2, 2010 3:18 PM in response to Abanih
    I just want to chime in and say I find this frustrating since it is supposed to be adding features not substracting them from the first apple TV

    Apple, we want volume control on music and videos this time.

    To everyone, please go to apple.com/feedback and submit a feedback report (please do this everytime you have an issue with anything, they really do listen).
  • by Nathan Tharp,

    Nathan Tharp Nathan Tharp Nov 4, 2010 9:51 PM in response to tgibbs
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    Nov 4, 2010 9:51 PM in response to tgibbs
    Dish remote is UHF. Tried an IR Dish remote and only 50% of the buttons actually work with the Apple TV. THe up,down,L,R buttons don't work for example.
  • by tgibbs,

    tgibbs tgibbs Nov 5, 2010 6:56 AM in response to Nathan Tharp
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    Nov 5, 2010 6:56 AM in response to Nathan Tharp
    Nathan Tharp wrote:
    Dish remote is UHF. Tried an IR Dish remote and only 50% of the buttons actually work with the Apple TV. THe up,down,L,R buttons don't work for example.


    You tried the Apple TV's learning procedure?
  • by dgalvan123,

    dgalvan123 dgalvan123 Nov 5, 2010 7:57 AM in response to Nathan Tharp
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    Nov 5, 2010 7:57 AM in response to Nathan Tharp
    Nathan Tharp wrote:
    Dish remote is UHF. Tried an IR Dish remote and only 50% of the buttons actually work with the Apple TV. THe up,down,L,R buttons don't work for example.



    I posted a thread on how to program the Dish IR remote to be used with the ATV 2nd generation, here:
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12389284&#12389284

    I'll copy-paste what I did below:

    I programmed my Dish Network 5.0 IR remote (look on the remote bottom to see which version you have) to control my new 2nd generation apple tv.

    I used the AUX mode and had to try dozens of different codes before the buttons I wanted to use were enabled. That is, the apple tv can accept just about any IR signal from a remote and "learn" it, but not every button on the Dish network remote is enabled to actually send out an IR signal. Each different programming code enables a different set of buttons. I just wanted to use the blue directional buttons (up,down,left,right) and the center select button on m dish remote, since they are most analagous to the buttons on the apple tv remote. You can tell if the remote is emitting an IR signal when you press a button because the mode button will flash once when you press a button that is actually emitting an IR signal, and won't flash at all when you press a button that is NOT emitting a signal.

    To do this, do the following:

    1. Hold down the AUX mode button at the top of the remote until all the mode buttons flash red and then the AUX button continually flashes.
    2. Press "0" (tells the remote you are programming a TV code)
    3. Enter "2", "3", "4" (this is a remote code for a certain type of panasonic TV. I used it because it actually enabled all the directional buttons and the select button to send a signal.)
    4. Press the # button.
    5. After a second or two, the AUX button should flash 3 times, indicating the code has been successfully entered.
    6. On the apple tv, use your aluminum remote to go to settings--> general--> remotes--> learn remote.
    7. follow the on screen instructions, making sure the AUX mode on your remote has been selected before hitting the arrow buttons on your Dish remote.
    8. For the "Menu" button, I used the "info" button on the dish remote, since it is in roughly the same position relative to the directional buttons as the menu button on the apple remote. shrug
    Now you can use your Dish network remote to control your apple TV!

    One caveat: If the TV you are using is actually controlled by the 234 panasonic code I chose here, you won't want to use it on your apple tv because both devices will pick up the signal and respond at the same time, causing chaos. You'd have to instead go through and try other codes available form Dish NEtwork's website, here:
    http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/remotes /TechRemo3.0Code.shtml#dvd

    Also note there are more instructions regarding the Dish 5.0 IR remote here:
    http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/remotes /5.0.shtml
  • by tgibbs,

    tgibbs tgibbs Nov 5, 2010 8:23 AM in response to dgalvan123
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    Nov 5, 2010 8:23 AM in response to dgalvan123
    A handy way to tell whether an infrared remote is emitting a signal when you press a button is to look at it through the viewfinder of a digital camera. The light sensors used in digital cameras are sensitive to UV, so you will actually see the IR emitter light up.
  • by tivoboy,

    tivoboy tivoboy Nov 6, 2010 4:57 PM in response to solsun
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    Nov 6, 2010 4:57 PM in response to solsun
    Crazy that one cannot even program the iTv product to control the VOLUME that it is connected to? It would seem that the up and down on the remote, could/should do that. Come on, all it is is remote codes.
  • by mbwhitworth,

    mbwhitworth mbwhitworth Nov 7, 2010 6:48 AM in response to Darko Ibrahimpasic1
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    Nov 7, 2010 6:48 AM in response to Darko Ibrahimpasic1
    This too has been driving me nuts. I used to have the old Apple TV hooked up to my home theatre and was able to control it on my patio with the remote app on my iPhone. The volume control worked great. So I get the new apple tv and no volume control.

    So, simple fix. Have iTunes play using apple tv as it's output speakers. Then you use apple remote to control iTunes. Apple remote then has a volume control feature. Music plays via apple tv and whatever speakers you have hooked up to it. Apple remote has all the functionality for choosing songs, playlists etc. when controlling iTunes so it is really no different than controlling apple tv.
  • by 0tis,

    0tis 0tis Nov 20, 2010 11:54 AM in response to Darko Ibrahimpasic1
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    Nov 20, 2010 11:54 AM in response to Darko Ibrahimpasic1
    Bring back the old Apple TV!
    More control with iPod touch, iPhone & iPads. More outputs (analog). Airtunes, is there a way to broadcast to other ATVs and airpot expresses? Volume control (what the cuss), the best part of this system is to control the music and the volume from any where in range of your wifi network and Apple removed that option it seems.
  • by AppleTV Fan; iTunes Fan,

    AppleTV Fan; iTunes Fan AppleTV Fan; iTunes Fan Nov 22, 2010 7:38 AM in response to Devastato
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    Nov 22, 2010 7:38 AM in response to Devastato
    - i think that's not that annoying -
    I am happy with the remote of my TV, that's enough. There's nothing more annoying than switching the volume with 2 remotes...!
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