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macorin Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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Nov 7, 2010 7:16 AM
When importing into Aperture, do you always have to set the Time Zone settings properly?

The easiest of course is when you are shooting in your local time zone and the camera time is set properly to match that. However, let's say you are shooting in a different time zone and you have set the camera time to match the correct time in that time zone. When importing, do you have to tell Aperture the correct "Camera Time" and "Actual Time"?

So long as you are properly managing the camera's time, do you even have to mess with the time zone settings in Aperture? Will it just automatically know that you shot in MST?

The reason I ask is that I thought the time zone adjustments were for when you needed to make changes because you didn't set your camera clock and/or time zone properly. This feature lets you correct it after the fact. However, it seems as though you have to do it always. I live on the east coast. I shoot in California, have my camera's time settings set to properly reflect PST and the correct time in California. If I were to import the images, they show up in Aperture with an EST time. Now, it is the EST that would match the correct time in California, i.e. if I shot in California at 10:00 am, the images would show up in Aperture as 1:00 pm EST. This is the correct time, but I want it to say, 10:00 am PST, which is telling me when and where I shot those images. The only way to do this is to make sure that you choose, "Camera Time" = America/Los Angeles and "Actual Time" = America/Los Angeles. This seems ridiculous to have to do every time you shoot images in a different time zone than the one you live in.

On top of that, when I export the image masters for archiving purposes, the date is reflective of the EST, not the PST. What am I supposed to do, change the date and time of all the Masters of images that were shot with the correct time to begin with?

Can someone PLEASE shed some light on the TIME, TIME ZONE, CAMERA TIME, ACTUAL TIME and when to do/how to use these features properly when importing images. It seems like it should be straight forward, yet it continues to throw me for a loop.

Thanks

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  • Andreas Yankopolus Level 2 Level 2 (410 points)
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    Nov 7, 2010 7:47 AM (in response to macorin)
    I keep my camera set to UTC. On import, I set "camera time" to UTC and "actual time" to where I photographed the images. This frees me from having to update my camera's clock for daylight savings time and crossing time zones.
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  • Andreas Yankopolus Level 2 Level 2 (410 points)
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    Nov 7, 2010 3:04 PM (in response to macorin)
    I just tried exporting several images imported in this manner. The date/time in the filename matched the info shown in the metadata pane.

    —Andreas
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  • Andreas Yankopolus Level 2 Level 2 (410 points)
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    Nov 7, 2010 4:07 PM (in response to macorin)
    Prepare for much trial and error! Here's what I do: Select the images and hit cmd-shift-b to bring up the batch-change window. Try a different camera and actual time zone, click "okay", and see where the date/time on the images ends up.

    Cheers,

    Andreas
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  • Andreas Yankopolus Level 2 Level 2 (410 points)
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    Nov 7, 2010 4:30 PM (in response to macorin)
    I'm not sure what's happening to your files here. Perhaps try exporting and re-importing the image file?

    —Andreas
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  • Andreas Yankopolus Level 2 Level 2 (410 points)
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    Nov 8, 2010 8:06 AM (in response to macorin)
    Arizona isn't equivalent to PST because PST observes daylight savings time. Use UTC-7 as the time zone for Arizona and see if that doesn't clear up your issue.

    —Andreas
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  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,805 points)
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    Nov 8, 2010 8:34 PM (in response to macorin)
    Camera Time is the time set in the camera.
    Actual Time is the time at the location where the images were taken.
    If Camera Time and Actual Time are the same there is no need to use this Import setting.

    From the Aperture User manual:

    Adjusting the Image File’s Time When Importing
    On a trip, it’s easy to forget to update your camera’s clock to match the local time zone. If you didn’t synchronize your camera time to the new location, Aperture lets you correct the time assigned to the image file by whole hours when importing.

    To adjust image file capture time when importing
    In the Import browser, choose Time Zone from the Import Settings pop-up menu.

    The Time Zone controls appear in the Import browser.


    Choose the time zone that matches the camera’s time setting from the Camera Time pop-up menu.

    Choose the time zone of the shoot location from the Actual Time pop-up menu.

    Aperture updates the capture time of your image files according to the Time Zone settings.

    After you’ve imported images, you can adjust the date and time of any versions you’ve created by choosing Metadata > Adjust Date and Time. For more information about this command, see Adjusting Image Date and Time.
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  • guana Calculating status...
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    Nov 9, 2010 5:14 AM (in response to macorin)
    Mac,

    I am having the same exact problem as you, thus I am following this thread closely trying to learn how to solve the time zone issue. I'm also on the East Coast (EST) but frequently shooting in California (PST). I am stuck with the EST on my times when it needs to be PST. It seems that the Metadata drop down ADJUST DATE AND TIME tab would be the right place to change the EST to PST but it does not have that option. Whatever the solution is, I do not see it at the present time. I'm looking forward to following this thread and hopefully understanding the solution. Good luck.
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  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,805 points)
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    Nov 9, 2010 7:20 AM (in response to macorin)
    OK there are three different scenarios: (maybe more?)

    1) Your camera time and shoot time are the same and you import into Aperture in the same time zone.

    ex) I live on the East Coast, I shoot here and my camera is set to local time, I import into Aperture at home. I don't need to do anything during import. I can leave the Time Zone adjustment closed.

    ex) I go to LA, I set my camera to local time I shoot in LA I go back to my hotel and import the photos into my laptop. I don't need to use the Time Zone adjust. Assumes the laptop time is set to local time.

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    2) Your camera time and shoot time are the same but you import in a different time zone. Set both camera time and actual time that time zone.

    e). I go to LA set camera to LA time shoot, in LA, fly home and import. Set both Time Zone adjust settings to LA.

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    3) Your camera time and shoot time do not match.

    ex. I go to LA forget to change camera time. When I import I set camera time to EST and set actual time to PST.



    Need to run, let me know if this helps or if it totally confuses the issue
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