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5629 Views 9 Replies Latest reply: Dec 28, 2010 9:38 AM by Gilbert Blankenship1
Currently Being ModeratedOct 21, 2010 11:56 AM (in response to parish_chap)3.0.x did this as well, IF you hit the sync thing in Aperture next to your FB album.
What I noticed upon upgrading for 3.1 is it appears Aperture automatically did this for all my FB albums.....that is wrong IMO.iMac AL 27", iMac AL 24", MacBook13", AppleTV, Mac OS X (10.6.4), Mac user since 1984 (college...)
Currently Being ModeratedOct 21, 2010 12:10 PM (in response to mtbdudex)Yes, very, very wrong. Would you like a photo with a version name of
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Currently Being ModeratedOct 21, 2010 12:48 PM (in response to parish_chap)This is how iPhoto behaves too, so more or less expected, but not ideal for everyone's workflow.MBP 2.8 C2D || Mac Pro 2.66 || iP 3Gs, Mac OS X (10.6.2), 30"+23" Cinema Displays | 2 AppleTVs
Currently Being ModeratedOct 21, 2010 1:01 PM (in response to Clem)yea, there should be a metadata palce to store the FB captions other than file name......but when uploading to FB file name is the default caption......FB issue......
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Currently Being ModeratedOct 22, 2010 12:24 AM (in response to Clem)
This is how iPhoto behaves too, so more or less expected, but not ideal for everyone's workflow.
Ah, so it does. I'd never noticed that before, probably because I only used to use iPhoto for uploading to FB (before you could do it from Aperture) so never bothered with the photos after uploading. Just been to look and see the same thing.
This is bad. Surely a caption is just that, metadata, whereas the version name is, by default, the filename and changing it to what is after all random data is crazy. Dunno whether any of the pros rename versions to be different to the filename but, to me, the filename is a unique identifier so should be left that way.MacBook Pro 15", 2.4GHz, 4GB, 160GB, Mac OS X (10.6), black iPhone 3GS 32GB, 32GB iPad
Currently Being ModeratedDec 16, 2010 2:57 AM (in response to parish_chap)I am having this problem with Flickr and Aperture. There seems to be a big problem with file names and version names. In Lightroom, the behaviour is correct. The title is the title, not the document name, and the caption is also correct. So it seems that the metadata is not going to the correct places. I hope this is fixed up soon. This is most probably what all of you are experiencing on Facebook.Macbook Pro, Mac Pro 8 core, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Wacom Cintique Monitor 15UX
Currently Being ModeratedDec 24, 2010 8:43 AM (in response to parish_chap)I just found out about this problem Here is the message sent to Apple using their Aperture Feedback option. I suggest everyone here send them feedback:
I just found out (as others before me), that putting a caption on a photo in Facebook changes the version name in Aperture. Didn't that coming!
I was hoping the Aperture cations would be uploaded as Facebook captions, but not surprised when they weren't. I was VERY surprised (and disappointed) that my time-consuming Facebook caption edits destroyed the version names in Aperture. Was this intentional or a bug?
Please make the Facebook captions the same as the Aperture captions, or alternatively make a separate metadata field for Facebook captions (preferably with an option to make the Facebook captions automatically copy the Aperture captions. An even better option would be a the option to make the Facebook caption equal to a selected combination of several metadata options (e.g. version name + caption + date).2009 MP 2.66 GHz 8 Core, 16 GB RAM, Radeon 4870, Mac OS X (10.6.3), 2010 17" MacBook Pro i5
Currently Being ModeratedDec 24, 2010 2:34 PM (in response to David Strait)I ended up buying FlickrExport so that I could export the photos the way I wanted to and there is a dialogue about sending IPTC preferences there. Apple has the mapping all wrong, whereas Lightroom does it correctly. A version name as far as Aperture is concerned reads as a file name, therefore if you export the files to Flickr etc., they must all be different, otherwise you will encounter missing files and duplicates in Flickr. What I am able to do using FlickrExport is choosing Headline for the Title (Title in LR is mapped to Headline in Aperture). Caption remains caption. Leave the version name as is and then export. Everything works out fine. I am also going through all my Lightroom libraries and making the Titles shorter and pasting the long form into the Caption field.
I cannot understand why Apple's programmers do not adhere to a standard for Metadata. Adobe has been the standard for all these things, and there is no reason why we should not have the applications being more congruent with each other!
I must say that Lightroom is much better at exporting correctly to Flickr, and they have implemented the system well. It is much more elegant and faster than Aperture. I use Aperture so that I can sync. with my iPad and Mobile me should I wish, so I need it as well. It is very difficult to maintain two libraries with two sets of metatdata and corrections.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 28, 2010 9:38 AM (in response to hilofoz)David Riecks has an article on the issues with Aperture and IPTC metadata over at:
It appears that you are correct in your assertion that Apple (Aperture) does not adhere to the IPTC standard for image metadata. Ad Mr. Riecks points out, this should be of major concern for anyone using Aperture as their image warehouse and then exporting their images out to anyone who does adhere to the IPTC standard as some of your most important data (inclusive of location, identification, rights use, and copyright - aka IPTC Core in Aperture) are essentially lost.
Very disappointing indeed! Failure to adhere to industry standards are the primary reason I stopped using Windows products and made the migration to Apple.
Hopefully Aperture will address this in coming releases to include the extraction of Faces data into the IPTC 1.1 Extension Description structure "Person Shown" with an option to extract the Faces data into the IPTC1.1 Extension Models structure "Model Shown" fields.Dual 2.26 GHz Quad, Mac OS X (10.6.5), 12GB RAM