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2750 Views 10 Replies Latest reply: Jan 13, 2011 4:21 PM by Grant Bennet-Alder RSS
eurobum Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Jan 7, 2011 10:23 AM
Hello all.

I have a 2008 Mac Pro 2x2.66 GHz DCI Xeon, 3 GB ram running OS 10.6.5.

I have a huge problem that I suspect the main hard drive is the problem to. It freezes from anywhere to 5-30 TIMES A DAY. This is what happens:

1) high pitch noise comes from the computer (doesn't stop until step 5)
2) beach ball
3) whatever application is open freezes
4) Finder freezes
5) only way to advance is to power off

It's been this way for a long time ... at least since OS 10.5. It's just gotten worse and worse. A year ago it happened maybe once a month. 30 times a day is RIDICULOUS.

It can happen at ANY time -- not always when doing CPU intensive stuff. It can literally just have been turned on and left for ten minutes with NO other applications than Mail starting from boot and it will have frozen. Sometimes all it takes is to open a tab in my browser. Other times it's when doing heavy CPU stuff like video editing. There's no reasoning to it, and many google attempts have yielded no usable results. So I'm going to try to get a new hard drive and do a clean install of Snow Leopard.

*sigh at the man hours it will take to regain this current state of settings and tweaks*

My questions:

1) I'm looking for a solid hard drive with emphasis on performance. Not too pricey. I'm thinking 500-1000 GB. I already have the two slots filled with two 2 TB hard drives for media stuff. It's just a regular SATA 3.5 correct? What kinds of specs should I be looking for specifically for performance? I have no idea. Can you recommend any of these (Danish site)?

http://bj-trading.dk/newshop/default.asp?side=vare.asp&gruppe=harddisk-ide(SATA%203,5)

(copy/paste to browser)

2) Would it be a good idea to do a clone instead of a clean install and if the problem persists on the new hard drive then do a clean install?

I hope you can offer some good advice. Thank you!
Mac OS X (10.6.6)
  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,110 points)
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    Jan 7, 2011 10:46 AM (in response to eurobum)
    If those prices are in Euros, those guys are Robbers. I suggest you never buy anything from them.

    A new Western Digital black 1TB sells for US$100 (under 80 euros) in the US.

    Do not be put off by a re-Install. It takes an hour or two, and gets you close to where you left off. Many of the settings are on a per-User basis, and will follow your User data, provided you can restore your user data from a Backup. The additional tweaks you need to make will be obvious as you work.
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  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,110 points)
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    Jan 7, 2011 10:55 AM (in response to eurobum)
    OK. That is not bad at all.

    The reason I bring it up is that drives are cheap. Get another drive and replace the one that is having trouble so that you can get your work done. In 1988, an 80GB drive was US$1000
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  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,110 points)
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    Jan 7, 2011 11:06 AM (in response to eurobum)
    Drives above about 300GB or using 10000 RPM motors are recently-developed and are going to be pretty fast.

    WD "Green" drives are for backups, not for performance.
    Beige G3, G4/867, G4/dual 1.25 MDD, MacPro'09 w cheap SSD, Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier, and 9.2, 10.5 and Server - LW IIg, LW 4/600, ATalk ImageWriter LQ
  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,560 points)
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    Jan 7, 2011 11:21 AM (in response to Grant Bennet-Alder)
    Maybe you meant 8GB for $80,000 in 1988? We had a 5GB drive in mid-1980s that was the size of a double-wide fridge and I'm sure IBM charged an arm & leg for. That replaced a small 'farm' of 100-500MB DASD, each the size of washing machine top loaders.

    I remember when a 100MB drive dropped to under $1000 in 1990.

    To the OP:

    Disk Warrior
    SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner
    Data Rescue 3 (demo) if you need to recover files that the above won't
    A small Mac OS system volume to run disk repairs and maintenance.
    Mac Pro 8800GTX Corsair F90 SSD, Mac OS X (10.6.5), 3.2GHz 10K VelociRaptors Win7 GTX 460
  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,110 points)
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    Jan 7, 2011 12:40 PM (in response to The hatter)
    Hatter-

    I am showing my age. I just cannot switch gears fast enough to cover the changes we have seen so very recently. It was an 80MB drive I meant.

    I have recently bought some small WD 3.5" form factor drives with 10000 RPM speeds in 35 and 70 GB sizes. They work well for a System drive or as an Alternate System for Repairs.
    Beige G3, G4/867, G4/dual 1.25 MDD, MacPro'09 w cheap SSD, Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier, and 9.2, 10.5 and Server - LW IIg, LW 4/600, ATalk ImageWriter LQ
  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,110 points)
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    Jan 13, 2011 4:21 PM (in response to eurobum)
    When things are calmer, you can initialize that troublesome drive with Write Zeroes option. When it finishes (after several hours) it should be 100 percent good blocks, or have an "Initialization Failed" or other error.

    If it passes, it may not be good enough to trust every day with your best data, but it could be used as a backup drive.
    Beige G3, G4/867, G4/dual 1.25 MDD, MacPro'09 w cheap SSD, Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier, and 9.2, 10.5 and Server - LW IIg, LW 4/600, ATalk ImageWriter LQ

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