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Basic border, then render

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John Howarth Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)
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Sep 13, 2010 4:40 PM
I want to present a set of jpg stills with a white basic border, chosen from the Effects/Video Filters/Border menu. I want six or seven of these to appear successively, overlapping, as if on a scrapbook page, each image somewhat less than 1/4 full screen size, and super'd over a moving background clip. When I render, the white border disappears from the right hand edge of some of the later images. Also, the last image in the sequence, which is alone on the screen, the others having faded out, now also minus part of its border, flickers, due to an alternate black frame having appeared in the rendered image.

Is there a way round this?
MacPro 2.8Ghz 8-core, MacBook Pro 15", Mac OS X (10.5.8)
  • David Harbsmeier Level 7 Level 7 (29,570 points)
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    Sep 13, 2010 5:05 PM (in response to John Howarth)
    Open the images in Photoshop and add the border there.

    -DH
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  • gruvdone Calculating status...
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    Dec 3, 2010 6:14 AM (in response to David Harbsmeier)
    That is NOT an answer. If this effect doesn't work as advertised, and there is no in-app solution, then that's just weak.
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  • Daniel Haffner Calculating status...
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    Dec 4, 2010 2:47 PM (in response to John Howarth)
    I'm having the same problem. I'm using a TIFF. I've never needed this capability before now but when I went to use it, the left 3/4 of the picture is bordered but the Right 1/4th is not. What gives? I tried everything I could think of. Changing order of objects, Proportion of image, border thickness, etc. Nothing made any difference to it. We shouldn't have to use an external editor to do this simple effect.
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  • Nick Holmes Level 7 Level 7 (29,805 points)
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    Dec 4, 2010 3:05 PM (in response to gruvdone)
    That is NOT an answer.


    Of course it is. Something in the OP's workflow is causing a rendering error. Hard to see exactly what from here, but a solution was offered that will eliminate having to render the border in FCP (if indeed that is the cause).

    Result: OP gets the job out the door and gets paid. They can do the tweaking and troubleshooting later, when there is time to find out if it's down to operator error or really a flaw in the software.

    What solution does your reply offer, exactly?
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  • Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (104,630 points)
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    Dec 4, 2010 3:10 PM (in response to Daniel Haffner)
    You've sent a full report to feedback, right?
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  • Andy Mees Level 6 Level 6 (12,595 points)
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    Dec 4, 2010 5:40 PM (in response to Daniel Haffner)
    you can try adding the border in my "simple crop" filter ... see if that works
    http://web.me.com/andymees/Freeand_Easy/main/Entries/2007/1/30_Andy’s_SimpleCrop.html
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  • decaharms Calculating status...
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    Jan 28, 2011 1:11 PM (in response to Andy Mees)
    Tried yours, too, Andy, without any success. It's a strange problem...
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  • Patrick Sheffield Level 7 Level 7 (29,175 points)
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    Jan 28, 2011 1:55 PM (in response to decaharms)
    Just out of curiosity you might try rendering in 8-bit as opposed to 10 bit (⌘0 to access your timeline settings). There are some weird bugs that crop up in FCP in 10 bit.

    Patrick

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  • Eric Bolt Calculating status...
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    Jan 28, 2011 2:46 PM (in response to Daniel Haffner)
    A TIFF is a really large file. Have you tried converting to a .png or .jpg?
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  • gogiangigo Level 6 Level 6 (8,035 points)
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    Jan 28, 2011 4:35 PM (in response to John Howarth)
    John,
    what kind of codec are you editing?

    It is not H.264, MPEG2 or some other non editing format... is it?

    If it is not an issue with the codec then feel free to send me a few seconds of your video material and I will try to replicate your issue, that would definitely give some resolving clues.

    Luca
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  • Studio X Level 7 Level 7 (26,835 points)
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    Jan 28, 2011 4:48 PM (in response to Eric Bolt)
    Wrong wrong wrong.

    Do not confuse the file size as saved on the hard drive with the file size once opened. TIF and JPEG both will take up the same memory. What's different is the JPEG must be uncompressed more in order to work AND any changes to make to the file outside of FCP adds an additional level of compression. Stay away from JPEGS.

    x
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  • Eric Bolt Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Jan 28, 2011 5:53 PM (in response to Studio X)
    That's an excellent point. I was thinking in terms of throughput from the hard drive, not considering the JPEG decompression in RAM. How about a PNG?
    Many, Mac OS X (10.6.5)
  • Greggers2012 Calculating status...
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    Oct 19, 2012 3:19 AM (in response to John Howarth)

    I've just had the same problem and solved it. 

     

    It's the size of the image. FCP doesn't support anything above 4000 x 4000.

     

    I first changed the images from jpeg to tiff and that did nothing.

     

    I reduced the size and they now work fine.

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