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Sep 27, 2010 8:09 AM in response to ApMaXby Guitar Monster,I'm having the same problem and I've tried everything on this post and many others without success or had it working fine temporarily. A few words for Apple - PLEASE fix this BUG! Don't think it is a minor issue and do not ignore it. This problem is driving me NUTS!!!!!! -
Oct 19, 2010 10:50 PM in response to Guitar Monsterby Miyuri,Same thing here!
It happened to me on the desktop only once, not when I upgraded from Leopard to Snow Leopard, but when I updated the new OS from 10.6.3 to 10.6.4...
The desktop would not be such a big issue for me, since I do not have that many files on it (probably too much than necessary, but still...), so I can still reorder it if it happens.
But what is reeeeeeeally bugging me is that it happens more often in folders, where I have hundreds or thousands of files... I can no longer find what I need, this is such a pain!! I noticed that after the upgrade, my file classification was kept, but the grid was messed up. Some of the files were not on the exact same line and whenever I clicked on "snap to grid" in the contextual menu, there would be one line missing, and the files on this line would be scattered anywhere in the folder. This is impossible to reorganize! Even more so than now I cannot even move around files in the folder to make room for the others: every single space on the grid has to be occupied if I want to move a file to a new line after the last one in the folder. So I either have to move all my files to another folder and place them back in the right order one by one, or... nothing. No other option.
I find it amazing that Apple still does not care about this issue, when it is a BASIC need for users to find their **** files!! I don't care about the other improvements of SL, I wish I could downgrade back to 10.5.8: 10.6.4 is not a beta version of the OS, there should NOT be buggy issues like this one!!! -
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Feb 9, 2011 10:01 AM in response to ApMaXby Patrick McDonald,This atrocious bug IS STIL NOT SOLVED under 10.6.6...
Apple, do you really need to make Windoze switchers feel at home by introducing Microsoftian bugs?? -
Feb 21, 2011 3:55 AM in response to ApMaXby rexslate,ApMaX - If you have your settings really set as you stated on Feb 13, 2010, then it will produce the rearrangement. You stated that they were set as Carolyn had them in the previous post. She had them set as Name. They should be set under your arrangement as none or snap to grid to hold their position. Do you really have the setting as Name? -
Feb 21, 2011 8:52 AM in response to rexslateby ApMaX,The "View - Show View Options" shows:
Arrange by None.
BTW, I personally know other people with the same problem. It is a real problem (bug) of Mac OS X 10.6.x. -
Feb 22, 2011 3:04 AM in response to ApMaXby rexslate,Hi ApMax - As this problem obviously does not effect everyone, there must be something relatively unique with your and others systems, which bring about this condition. If it were a universal bug, which would be MUCH easier to determine, it would affect everyone, which is not the case. I would suggest that you, if possible, try to determine what are the common variables that you share with the others, whom you know, who have this problem. Sadly it probably is not any easier for Apple to find the source of the problem than you, in fact probably much more difficult for them. Their test machines tend to be quite clean and quite vanilla. Ours, because they are being used in production, are not.
It must be something, somewhere that is triggering this activity, possibly more than a single direct cause even (a combination of softwares and/or hardwares). I notice that you boot externally and via firewire. Do any of the others, whom you know, also use this or a similar setup, even occasionally?. I have in past years done this, but not for a long time. A possibility of using this setup, is if you or others are booting from different systems from time to time (even occasionally), this could have a negative effect, as not every MacOS X system version handles the hard drive information identically. The changes are theoretically backward compatible, but a problem could arise when an older system is used to boot after a newer modified version of the system has been used with the computer. It could adversely affect any attached drives or partitions, which have been booted with a newer, modified file system. Another thought, it could be related simply to the firewire drive itself. For some reason firewire drives have suffered more bus related problems than USB drives, sometimes causing compatibility problems. These are often connected with the particular hard drive bus makers implementation, of which Apple does not have control, meaning the drive manufacturer sometimes releases a firmware update, or sadly does not do so. Apple does often work with known and understood glitches together with the manufacturers to come up with a solution behind the scenes.
This is only a suggestion. It is the only variable that I know of your system of which there are many millions! Here is the problem. Debugging in today's computer world can be a nightmare, because of the complexities of hardware and software design and interaction. I respect Microsoft highly, as their problems are greater in potential than those of Apple. Apple at least controls both the basic hardware and software, while Microsoft just the basic software. This is one reason why Apple computers are traditionally less buggy, but buggy they are! Do not be too hard on Apple for not fixing your problem. It is not a universal bug by any means, so it must be something interacting in your and others machines that simply does not exist on other users' setups. Apple even with all the resources that they have, could not possibly test out every combination of hardware/software interaction even if they tried, or all we would have would be a Fat Mac to this day. Sorry I could not help more, but this is the direction to proceed, if you wish to get to the bottom of the problem - what are the common variables in the setups of the affected systems. -
Feb 22, 2011 9:03 AM in response to rexslateby ApMaX,Thanks for the information, rexslate. I know some people who have this issue and do not boot from external drives. In my case, I do but always for booing the very same Mac from the very same disk (LaCie) with updated firmware.
Yes, I know that this is a difficult bug because it does not hit all the times and because not all people has it.
BTW, the bug arises sometimes simple forcing a Finder quit (Option Command Escape). And it shows even with only three icons on the whole Desktop: the one of the booting hard disk and two aliases corresponding to a folder and an application.
The bug did not show with Mac OS X 10.5. It started with Mac OS X 10.6.2 (I did not tried previous Mac OS X 10.6 versions).
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Feb 28, 2011 8:54 AM in response to ApMaXby Patrick McDonald,The problem has something to do with the Finder, I suspect. Here's why.
After trying everything (w no success), I wiped all my drives, reinstalled 10.6 from scratch, updated to 10.6.6, and reinstalled everything. It worked flawlessly for about 1 week, couldn't believe it. And then one day the Finder quit on me in the background for no obvious reason. The nightmare is back ever since then. I'm utterly ****** off. -
Apr 2, 2011 2:36 PM in response to ApMaXby ApMaX,The horrible nightmare remains with Mac OS X 10.6.7. Really frustrating. Even with just three Desktop items and even after trashing:
com.apple.desktop.plist
com.apple.finder.plist
.DS_Store (invisible file inside the Desktop) -
May 10, 2011 7:15 PM in response to ApMaXby Patrick McDonald,Indeed, nothing is fixed in 10.6.7. Put a new HD in my MacPro last week, installed 10.6 from scratch on it, and applied Combo 10.6.7. Same **** all over again.
No wonder the snow leopard is on the brink of extinction. It's a sick beast.
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Jun 26, 2011 3:00 PM in response to ApMaXby ApMaX,Mac OS X 10.6.8 has the same bug. Why has not been fixed yet?
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Jun 27, 2011 10:33 AM in response to ApMaXby Patrick McDonald,I confirm the lack of a fix in 10.6.8 Probably will never be fixed. And indeed, why this microsoftian attitude towards a serious workflow bug?? Because all the resources are devoted to Lion and iOS maybe? (which still wouldn't make for an acceptable explanation)
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Jul 27, 2011 11:39 PM in response to ApMaXby ApMaX,The bug remains in Mac OS X 10.6.8 Supplemental Update.
Apple: are you listening? Please. This is a productivity issue! Thanks.
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Aug 23, 2011 12:17 PM in response to ApMaXby Patrick McDonald,Regretfully, Apple is NOT listening. We've been pointing out this MAJOR bug long enough. But should anyone need proof, try this link: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3235279?tstart=0. Yup, it's in Lion too.
Sigh.