Currently Being ModeratedFeb 17, 2011 10:09 AM (in response to Senne Guns)HI,
sorry, this is not going to work on Mainstage (at least on the current version).
software Instrument channels are intended to just receive incoming MIDI data, and convert it into audio.
To send MIDI messages out to the hardware world you should use an External Instrument channel, but it does not allow you to insert Hipercyclic, since it expects only audio plugins, to process the incoming AUDIO data from that external hardware instrument. External Instrument channels are useful to send MIDI data generated, say, by on screen controls, but there are no MIDI plugins such as an arpeggiator (a real pity, IMHO)
My suggestion would be to use a nice free application called Midipipe (http://homepage.mac.com/nicowald/SubtleSoft/)
You can send your Midi output data from MS to Midipipe (in the background), set the arpeggiator (using message converter and transpose options), and finally send this modified data to your MIDI out port.
If you have some difficulty configuring this, just send me a line.
ValgreenMacBook Pro, 4GbRAM, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 17, 2011 12:44 PM (in response to valgreen)Hi Valgreen,
thanks for your reply. Seems like a nice suggestion to use MidiPipe. I already have that program installed but haven't worked with it yet since setting up proved to be a little too complex. So if you know how to do it, a little help would be greatly appreciated!
You can always e-mail me (firstname.lastname@example.org) if that's easier for you. Or otherwise a reply
Thanks in advance!
SenneMacBook, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 18, 2011 8:24 AM (in response to JasTheMusicman)Very neat solution, Jas!
definetly better than my approach, although both share the same problem:
What if you want different arpeggio setting for every patch, while you are on a gig? would it mean changing to different logic files?
I would love if arpeggiator or other MIDI processes could simply be a plugin, easily inserted somewhere in the instrument channel.
ValgreenMacBook Pro, 4GbRAM, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 18, 2011 11:21 AM (in response to valgreen)Thanks, but yeah, you're right...would be much simpler with a straight AU plug in. I do think your idea of MIDIPipe is probably the best alternative to the plugin.
Would be nice if Apple made some of these features available straight in MS!iMac G5, Mac OS X (10.6.2)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 18, 2011 5:08 PM (in response to JasTheMusicman)Hi Jas,
thanks for your suggestion! Looks nice indeed. I'll try it tomorrow and see if I can achieve the same result by creating an external midi instrument in Mainstage and output (the arpeggiated) midi data to my Juno 106. Think it should work.
Of course this means I have to keep Logic up and running in the back; not very fond of the idea (I try to keep my setup as simple as possible to minimalise crash-risks when using MS live), but maybe a Logic project with just one external midi channel and arpeggiator won't do much harm to my CPU... Have to try it out.
Valgreen, Midipipe arpeggiator explanation still welcome if you got some spare time (even only some basics would help getting me started; MidiPipe seems a very versatile program but it's quiet hard to find some tutorials or information online)...
Keep you guys posted, thanks for the suggestions!
S.MacBook, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2011 4:08 PM (in response to Senne Guns)Hi, Curls & Jas
I've been refreshing my programming skills..i have just done some test with Midipipe and Mainstage, and built a basic arpeggiator. It still needs further development and testing to ensure it does not generate any MIDI conflict, so give me some time and when I have it done I'll share it with you for some final testing and then we can share it to the whole forum.
It will allow note resolution selection (quarter, eights,..), connected to MS tempo, and with some extra programming even selectable arpeggio modes.
i'll get back soon
valgreenMacBook Pro, 4GbRAM, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2011 6:42 PM (in response to valgreen)Hey Valgreen,
Cool..sounds like you're making good progress.
I gotta say with you sharing your experience with the forum, you're a great representative of what "community" means in the mainstage community forum!iMac G5, Mac OS X (10.6.2)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 21, 2011 3:39 AM (in response to valgreen)
Im really hoping that you're still checking this because I'm pretty sure I need your Midipipe setup.
I just bought a M-Audio Axiom controller and am trying to get it setup to run as my live rig with mainstage.
So far it was looking promising but I've just discovered there is no Arpeggio!!!! and I'm spewing.
I need an arpeggio that can read mainstage's TapTemp and if at all possible can be 'locked' or latched on as per normal harware synths
Currently Being ModeratedAug 21, 2011 3:57 AM (in response to shane2183)
oh actually im not trying to arpeggiate an external synth so maybe I don't need it.
Hopefully i can get it working with hypercyclic plugin arpeggiating my midi input from my axiom controller
I'm a bit of a rookie at this....
Currently Being ModeratedAug 31, 2011 4:36 PM (in response to Senne Guns)
I saw your other topic "Strange knob behaviour". I can't post because it was archived.
Please, tell me, did you solved that? Mainstage 2.1.3 fix "relative" bug?
I'm migrating from Windows, and considering buy Logic/Mainstage... But I'm worry because "relative" is so important, I can't believe it doesn't work.