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Q: Has Anything Replaced Open Firmware Password?

Has Anything Replaced Open Firmware Password?

MacBook Pro 15" Intel Corei7 (2.66-GHz), Mac OS X (10.6.6), 4G RAM, 500G HD, AEBS-N

Posted on Mar 10, 2011 5:34 PM

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Q: Has Anything Replaced Open Firmware Password?

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  • by captfred,

    captfred captfred Mar 10, 2011 6:17 PM in response to niteowl
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    Mar 10, 2011 6:17 PM in response to niteowl
    Yes for the MBair late 2010 and the MBpro early 2011. Otherwise no.

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3554

    Regards
  • by SiRGadaBout,Helpful

    SiRGadaBout SiRGadaBout Mar 10, 2011 7:16 PM in response to niteowl
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    Mar 10, 2011 7:16 PM in response to niteowl
    Hi,

    It's a loaded question you're using in someways. If what you mean is, "Is there an Open Firmware equivalent for Intel-based Macs?" then the answer is yes. See the following Apple KB article for full details:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1352

    HTH,

    S.
  • by niteowl,

    niteowl niteowl Mar 11, 2011 2:18 PM in response to SiRGadaBout
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    Mar 11, 2011 2:18 PM in response to SiRGadaBout
    It's a loaded question you're using in someways. If what you mean is, "Is there an Open Firmware equivalent for Intel-based Macs?" then the answer is yes. See the following Apple KB article for full details: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1352
    ======
    YES, that's what I meant. I have a late 2010 MacBook Pro w/ Core-i7 CPU

    I read the article and I find confusing info. In one paragraph it says Intel Macs use EFI and in the following paragraph It says "Any Intel Based Mac" can use Open Firmware*

    "All Intel-based Macintosh computers support firmware password protection.

    The following Apple computers can use the Open Firmware Password application:
    ▪ iMac (Slot Loading) and later models of G3 iMac
    ▪ iMac (Flat Panel) and later models of G4 iMac
    ▪ iMac G5 and later models of G5 iMac
    ▪ iBook - all models, both G3- and G4-based
    ▪ eMac - all models
    ▪ PowerBook (FireWire)
    ▪ PowerBook G4 and later models of G4 PowerBook
    ▪ Power Mac G4 (AGP Graphics) and later models of G4 Power Mac
    ▪ Power Mac G4 Cube - all models
    ▪ Power Mac G5 and later models of G5 Power Mac
    ▪ Any Intel-based Mac*
    ▪ MacBook Air: see MacBook Air: Recovering a lost EFI firmware password"

    So do I use Open Firmware or EFI?


    "Apple make up your mind please..."
  • by niteowl,

    niteowl niteowl Mar 11, 2011 3:54 PM in response to SiRGadaBout
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    Mar 11, 2011 3:54 PM in response to SiRGadaBout
    Are you saying I can or can't use Open Firmware Password on a MacBook Pro Late 2010?
  • by niteowl,

    niteowl niteowl Jun 27, 2012 8:00 PM in response to niteowl
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    Jun 27, 2012 8:00 PM in response to niteowl

    Well, how about NOW????

  • by red_menace,Solvedanswer

    red_menace red_menace Jun 28, 2012 9:36 AM in response to niteowl
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    Jun 28, 2012 9:36 AM in response to niteowl

    Information in that older Apple support document still applies.  Intel-based computers use Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI), while Open Firmware is used in computers that have PowerPC processors - the article listed which computers can use the Open Firmware Password application.

     

    Now that you are running Lion, you can use the Firmware Password Utility after booting into the recovery partition.

  • by niteowl,

    niteowl niteowl Jun 28, 2012 12:16 PM in response to red_menace
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    Jun 28, 2012 12:16 PM in response to red_menace

    The article is so vague about the application usage with the newer MacBooks and Lion.

     

    So as I understand I can use "Open Firmware Password.app" from 2001 on newer Macs regardless wheter they use Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI) or the older Open Firmware standard, Right or wrong? That there is no other application written just for Intell Macs using Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI)... Right or wrong?

     

    Or, are you saying that there is newer version of the utility built into the Lion Recovery sofware and I shouldn't use the older standalone application?

     

    I wish Apple would provide a newer article written specificaly for Intel (EFI) Macs....

  • by noondaywitch,Helpful

    noondaywitch noondaywitch Jun 28, 2012 1:40 PM in response to niteowl
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    Jun 28, 2012 1:40 PM in response to niteowl

    niteowl wrote:

     

    Or, are you saying that there is newer version of the utility built into the Lion Recovery sofware and I shouldn't use the older standalone application?

     

    Yes.

  • by niteowl,

    niteowl niteowl Jun 28, 2012 3:59 PM in response to noondaywitch
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    Jun 28, 2012 3:59 PM in response to noondaywitch

    You've all been very helpful and I hope that I can mark you all as such...

     

    But if not...

     

     

    A big THANK YOU to all of you.                               HUZZAH ! ! ! !