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Q: MacBook Pro 2011 17" hard freeze

Overheat? The fans revved and suddenly I could use nothing but the cursor. Had to hold down the power switch to kill all and then re-power & startup. I wasn't doing anything unusual, but I had 7 apps open and was amid an auto-backup to TimeMachine.

Just a little disillusioned and concerned, wondering if anyone else there has experienced a hard freeze like this.

macbook pro 17" 2011, Mac OS X (10.6.6)

Posted on Mar 1, 2011 11:15 AM

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  • by John Harrold,

    John Harrold John Harrold Mar 13, 2011 7:31 AM in response to DonkeyKong69
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    Mar 13, 2011 7:31 AM in response to DonkeyKong69
    In my instance it seems to be an integrated effect. I encoded a movie with Handbreak and ran six instances of VLC. This caused it to freeze after about 10 minutes or so. Instead, I ran a backup and that froze after 1.5 hours. Then doing nothing over night froze it after 8 hours. So pegging the cpu seems to speed up the process.

    I've got a phone call scheduled for 3pm est to discuss this with Apple.
  • by DonkeyKong69,

    DonkeyKong69 DonkeyKong69 Mar 13, 2011 11:23 AM in response to John Harrold
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    Mar 13, 2011 11:23 AM in response to John Harrold
    Hmmm, keep us updated because when I run CoverScout, my computer freezes in about 5min.
  • by alvinzho,

    alvinzho alvinzho Mar 13, 2011 12:24 PM in response to Rensoom
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    Mar 13, 2011 12:24 PM in response to Rensoom
    Can anyone run Windows 7 Experience Index using VMware fusion without it crashing? It crashes for me every time when it tries to do the Aero graphics test.
  • by John Harrold,

    John Harrold John Harrold Mar 13, 2011 1:40 PM in response to alvinzho
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    Mar 13, 2011 1:40 PM in response to alvinzho
    Ok I just got off the phone with apple. Evidently their phone system isn't day light savings time complaint. So if you setup a call and they don't phone you on time, just give them an hour. I called them at 3.30 and the guy I got a hold of said he couldn't help me debug it if it wasn't frozen right then. I tried to explain to him that if it was frozen I couldn't do anything to debug. So I agreed to freeze it and call back. While I was in the process of freezing it, I got a call and spoke with someone who seemed to have a slightly better understanding of the concept of 'non-responsive even after several hours of waiting'. So along with these steps:

    - resetting the pram AltCmd+pr at boot
    - shiftctl+altpower (3 seconds)
    - boot off of OS install disk -> disk utility -> repair disk permissions
    - clean install+updates-> confirm freez

    he had me do the following:
    Stick in the Application disk that came with the computer and boot into the diagnostics (hold down 'd' while booting). Then:

    - run the quick test (a few seconds)
    - run the extended test (it's running now and can take several hours)

    If you're going to call apple, you might as well do everything above (because they will tell you to do it anyway :)).

    I'm waiting on the result of my extended test, then I'm going to call them back.
  • by Nicholas N,

    Nicholas N Nicholas N Mar 13, 2011 2:26 PM in response to John Harrold
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    Mar 13, 2011 2:26 PM in response to John Harrold
    Hi John,

    When your doing the hardware test in quick or extended did you have the power plugged in ?
    Try Booting up into AHT (D key) & *make sure you have the battery 20% to 70% Charged and the power connector is in charging the mac* (not an already charged mac). Then do the std test and repeat a few more times without restarting - Do you get an error such as- tmp' error ??
  • by John Harrold,

    John Harrold John Harrold Mar 13, 2011 2:34 PM in response to Nicholas N
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    Mar 13, 2011 2:34 PM in response to Nicholas N
    I'm on the phone with them right now, and I finally got escalated up to the next level. After I get off the phone I'll try it out under those conditions.
  • by Aurel Griesser,

    Aurel Griesser Aurel Griesser Mar 13, 2011 2:55 PM in response to John Harrold
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    Mar 13, 2011 2:55 PM in response to John Harrold
    I got a crash this morning when trying to wake it from sleep. The screen went nuts; black columns at (approximately) every second line of pixels across it, alternating grey areas and black areas, the impression of a menu bar at the top. All looked very much like a graphics card crash/issue to me. Something was still responding, as the keyboard backlight could still be adjusted, and to start with, pressing the arrow keys repeatedly would result in a system alert beep (though I don't know why).

    Cmd-opt-esc did nothing.
    Cmd-ctrl-power for a few seconds restarted it and it seems normal now.

    Waiting to see whether it happens again. After reading this thread, I'll try to ssh to it if it does.

    New 2011 top-end 15" standard.
  • by Schwa72,

    Schwa72 Schwa72 Mar 13, 2011 3:07 PM in response to alvinzho
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    Mar 13, 2011 3:07 PM in response to alvinzho
    alvinzho wrote:
    Can anyone run Windows 7 Experience Index using VMware fusion without it crashing? It crashes for me every time when it tries to do the Aero graphics test.

    [It ran fine for me|http://home.earthlink.net/~kfscoll/images/VMWareFusion_pre_WinUpdate.JPG]. I just installed VMWare Fusion and Windows 7, so I haven't run Windows Update yet. I'll post back after I update windows.

    FWIW, the VMWare Fusion video drivers SUCK.
  • by John Harrold,

    John Harrold John Harrold Mar 13, 2011 3:24 PM in response to Aurel Griesser
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    Mar 13, 2011 3:24 PM in response to Aurel Griesser
    You may already know this stuff, but just in case

    Make sure you have remote login enabled:

    System Preferences => Sharing => check Remote Login

    Also figure out which ip address you have as well.
  • by Schwa72,

    Schwa72 Schwa72 Mar 13, 2011 4:06 PM in response to Schwa72
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    Mar 13, 2011 4:06 PM in response to Schwa72
    [It also ran fine|http://home.earthlink.net/~kfscoll/images/VMWareFusion_post_WinUpdate.JPG] after I installed all 70+ Windows updates. And the video drivers still really suck.
  • by silentparty,

    silentparty silentparty Mar 13, 2011 5:00 PM in response to HUS713R ON3
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    Mar 13, 2011 5:00 PM in response to HUS713R ON3
    {quote}Under normal use I have not had any issues but when testing StarCraft II and Minecraft, I will randomly incur a lockup where only the pointer is usable. In some situations I can play for hours without issue but in others it won't even take 5 minutes for a lockup to occur. {quote}

    this, in addition to the garbled display issue is sounding more and more like the graphics chipset is overheating. Could also be a driver issue however. My MBP is arriving in a few hours, looks like I'll have to do a thorough burn-in to make sure all is A.O.K. :\
  • by John Harrold,

    John Harrold John Harrold Mar 13, 2011 5:45 PM in response to Nicholas N
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    Mar 13, 2011 5:45 PM in response to Nicholas N
    Hey Folks

    Ok I spoke with them, and I asked the guy I was escalated up to if this was a problem they were seeing a lot of. He said that was not the case. I told him if this was something that was going to be fixed in a couple days with a firmware update or a new driver then I would wait. He he said he didn't have any reason to expect that. So, some of you can wait if you want, but my return box is on the way.


    WRT the diagnostics with my battery at ~40% I didn't get those messages Nicholas.
  • by alvinzho,

    alvinzho alvinzho Mar 13, 2011 6:06 PM in response to Schwa72
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    Mar 13, 2011 6:06 PM in response to Schwa72
    Are you using the ATI 6750 or the 6490? I am on 6750.
  • by Schwa72,

    Schwa72 Schwa72 Mar 13, 2011 7:00 PM in response to alvinzho
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    Mar 13, 2011 7:00 PM in response to alvinzho
    I'm on the 6750 also.
  • by Adam!,

    Adam! Adam! Mar 13, 2011 7:45 PM in response to John Harrold
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    Mar 13, 2011 7:45 PM in response to John Harrold
    Well, let us know the results of your new machine but just so you know: Every person on this thread who returned theirs for a new machine experienced the same exact problems.
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